[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I') don't use it (or any other social networking sites) because it's just a huge data mining operation for corporations and the government.

[lowem]

I still think Facebook is more of a youngster's thing, but anyway here's my profile.

[davep]

I appear to be belming into the void in the Peakoil group on Facebook

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alokin', 'I') never used it because I am anxious that governments or private companies could misuse the data given.

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', '[')And with that information they will do...what?

Find out where I live?

[MisterB]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ecause they would never think of matching your IP address with forum postings, amazon.com orders and youtube videos to build a personality profile.

[Jotapay]

This is a video about where Facebook comes from and what information they harvest about you. It was started with seed money from a venture capital firm that was created by the CIA. Facebook's board of directors has members who used to be high ranking officials at DARPA and the Department of Defense. Check it out:

http://blip.tv/file/1613641

[Jotapay]

I posted this in the Facebook sticky at the top of the forum, but I thought I'd post it in its own thread. For the life of me, I can't understand how people willingly submit to being monitored and tracked by the government and corporations.

http://blip.tv/file/1613641

[POAlex]

Big Brother is being watched too, you know.

"The eyes of the LORD are in every place, beholding the evil and the good." (Proverbs 15:3)

Alex

[emersonbiggins]

Thanks Alex - I feel much safer knowing that the LORD is on nightwatch.

[Voice_du_More]

Yeah, why sweat it? You'll get your typical vigilante cops on the inside trying to preempt armageddon by shooting a few messengers, eventually, but we've seen that movie before. It never works.

Knowing that MySpace just kicked out 90k peds, I think it might be good if everyone on Facebook knows Big Brother is watching. The honest law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear, and for now I believe that is largely true.

[MisterB]

How to permanently delete your account

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=16929680703

So close to doing it tonight, just need to get some email addresses of a few people first.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Voice_du_More', 'T')he honest law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear, and for now I believe that is largely true.

[Jotapay]

In all honestly, everything you do using electronic communications (phone, internet, email, credit card purchases) is captured today. All the data is run through fairly complex algorithms to build profiles, predict future behavior and define relationships inside groups/networks or between individuals. Social networking sites make this data mining much easier since you voluntarily define all the relationships and profiles yourself.

If I was going to create computer systems like this, I would first inspect the data gathered from the internet traffic, phone calls, etc. on a random set of test subjects who had rather robust social networking site profiles. Second, I would create/code some modeling algorithms to analyze the data against whatever goal was specified. Finally, I would then use the test subjects' MySpace or Facebook profiles as a validation mechanic for my algorithms. I would use the real data that they provided (voluntarily!) to fine tune my algorithms until my algorithms had an acceptable level of accuracy for whatever the specific goal was. Ta da!

Social Engineering 101. It's not that hard at all with computers.

[Voice_du_More]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Voice_du_More', 'T')he honest law abiding citizens should have nothing to fear, and for now I believe that is largely true.

[Jotapay]

Your post sounded like that of a statist who trusts government, not a Zen follower. I'm very Zen except when it comes to my civic responsibilities. I am a citizen, not a subject. Being Zen-like about the inevitability of peak oil is something quite different than the activism required by my civic responsibilities.

[Voice_du_More]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'Y')our post sounded like that of a statist who trusts government, not a Zen follower. I'm very Zen except when it comes to my civic responsibilities. I am a citizen, not a subject. Being Zen-like about the inevitability of peak oil is something quite different than the activism required by my civic responsibilities.

[ColossalContrarian]

Jotapay, I don’t understand what you think is so different about having a facebook account with links to your friends and family and posting on an internet forum like this one for instance.

I see the two as equal.

Facebook is a free website for me to stay in contact with friends and family I don’t care too much about the CIA stuff because it’s free. If you start an internet website that would allow me to keep track of friends and family but I have to pay and you promise not to monitor my usage, I’d say that might be worth $1.50 a month. It sounds like a great business plan to me. You could market how you’re not the CIA and facebook users would switch in droves.

[Jotapay]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Voice_du_More', 'F')orgive me, and please do not read any ill-will into the posts, it just seems like you don't really see how big and how imminent this thing is. I'm sorry Jotapay but activism is not going to mean anything. The axe is laid to the root of the tree now and it is going to fall soon.

[bodigami]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'I') posted this in the Facebook sticky at the top of the forum, but I thought I'd post it in its own thread. For the life of me, I can't understand how people willingly submit to being monitored and tracked by the government and corporations.

http://blip.tv/file/1613641