[notacornucopian]

Phil, as is customary around here, how about some links that demonstrate Ruppert's insanity and instability ?

[stu]

Ruppert on Wikipedia:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')uppert has asssembled an impressive body of facts, together with an extensive timeline that demonstrate the Bush Administration's advance knowledge of the September 11th terrorist attacks

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('notacornucopian', 'P')hil, as is customary around here, how about some links that demonstrate Ruppert's insanity and instability ?

[Aaron]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cerryl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') know Matt's already aware, but many consider the risk that some of the world's giant superfields will enter terminal decline at a rapid rate because of MRE the biggest depletion risk.

Would make 3% look anemic in comparison.

[PhilBiker]

Do a google search for experience with the Yibal field in Oman for a scary revelation about how these MRE wells decline.

Here's a great website talking about Ruppert$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'R')uppert has long been a purveyor of amazing tales. In 1981, he told the Los Angeles Herald Examiner that bizarre story about himself and his former lover, and the paper ran a two-part piece on him. Whatever the truth of this romantic encounter, the relationship apparently exacted a toll on Ruppert. In 1978, he resigned from the force, claiming the department had not protected him when his life was threatened. According to records posted on Ruppert's site, his commanding officer called his service "for the most part, outstanding." But the C.O. also said Ruppert was hampered by an "overconcern with organized-crime activity and a feeling that his life was endangered by individuals connected to organized crime. This problem resulted in Officer Ruppert voluntarily committing himself to psychiatric care last year . . . A ny attempts to rejoin the Department by Officer Ruppert should be approved only after a thorough psychiatric examination."

In 1996, Ruppert showed up at a community meeting in Los Angeles, where then--CIA Director John Deutch was addressing charges that the CIA had been in league with crack-cocaine dealers. Before television cameras and national reporters, Ruppert said the Agency had tried to sign him up in the 1970s to "protect CIA drug operations" in Los Angeles -- an allegation missing from the guns-for-drugs story published in 1981. In 1998, he launched his From the Wilderness newsletter, which examines what he considers to be the hidden currents of international economics and national security untouched by other media. On March 31 of last year, for instance, he published a report on an economic conference in Moscow that featured a speaker who worked for Lyndon LaRouche. "I share a near universal respect of the LaRouche organization's detailed and precise research," Ruppert wrote. "I have not, however, always agreed with its conclusions." Ruppert maintains that 20 members of Congress subscribe to his newsletter.

[Kent]

When a person WANTS to believe something he can make himself do so no matter how much the facts may conflict with his previously held belief.

Contrarily, when a person DOESN'T WANT to believe something, no amount of evidence will be enough to convice him to see that a thing exists.

This subconscious mechanism seves to protect the individual from facing new information (or dumping cherished beliefs) which will create internal dissoncance, disturb or upset the individual, and create unacceptable levels of emotional pain.

People tend to seek pleasure and avoid pain. It is the most fundamental dynamic of the human condition.

[PO_TimeCr0ss]

Well, at least I know I can conjure up a good thread.

All I will say is that I decided to start with "The Party's Over" because it was one of the first books I came across repeatedly in my studies of PO. There are others, but I decided to start here. I feel I am quite capable of forming my own opinon on the book. And chances are, it won't be my last book about PO.

Oh, and no I don't have any children yet. I guess I should have said "unborn children" in my earlier post.

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kent', 'W')hen a person WANTS to believe something he can make himself do so no matter how much the facts may conflict with his previously held belief.

Contrarily, when a person DOESN'T WANT to believe something, no amount of evidence will be enough to convice him to see that a thing exists.

This subconscious mechanism seves to protect the individual from facing new information (or dumping cherished beliefs) which will create internal dissoncance, disturb or upset the individual, and create unacceptable levels of emotional pain.

People tend to seek pleasure and avoid pain. It is the most fundamental dynamic of the human condition.

[notacornucopian]

This has gone on long enough - all I want to finish with is that I have read most of the opinions expressed by David Corn and others previously and I found nothing to change my feeling about Mike Ruppert to any significant degree. My final recommendation is to anyone reading this is to simply read the books listed in the reviews section and form your own opinion.

[stu]

Heinberg is good to start with.

Just ignore Phil. His assertions that because Heinberg buys into Rupperts theories make him a kook are ridiculous.

If we all thought that way then there would be a large volume of information about the upcoming energy crisis ignored, purely because of someones belief on a certain aspect that may or may not be related to PO.

Just becuase someone connects PO and 9/11 does not mean that the separate info they provide about depletion and it's impacts on humanity should be ignored.

[NevadaGhosts]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PO_TimeCr0ss', 'W')ell, at least I know I can conjure up a good thread.

All I will say is that I decided to start with "The Party's Over" because it was one of the first books I came across repeatedly in my studies of PO. There are others, but I decided to start here. I feel I am quite capable of forming my own opinon on the book. And chances are, it won't be my last book about PO.

Oh, and no I don't have any children yet. I guess I should have said "unborn children" in my earlier post.

[threadbear]

Seeing intelligence agencies and other protective services as loveable but retarded oafs is much more appealing to most people than the reality--that the upper tiers of these agencies have decayed to the point of being functional criminal organizations.

If a third world country were experiencing the same amount of Woops! problems as the US is at present, you would quickly and clearly identify the problem as criminal collusion at the highest levels of govt, because you'd be emotionally detached. When it's your own country and that country has been fairly good to you, it's difficult to get perspective.

You're living in a country that is undergoing a paradigm shift in the rule of law, criminal acitivity and political adherance to it's own consitution, commensurate with a status shift from first to third world ecomomic climate. Yet you will still get up every morning, put your socks on the same way, eat your allbran, drink your orange juice, and your life will go on, as the backdrop slowly morphs outside the realm of your perceptions.

You have to travel internationally before you can get a proper fix on "home".

Of course Ruppert is going to be attacked when he looks into organized crime and it's tentacles into intelligence agencies. What kind of nitwit would expect anything else? Do you expect the LAPD, who also turned out to be compromised, would give him a ringing endorsement?

[PhilBiker]

Wow, I post all those links (here's another great one) and all we get is people telling you not to listen to me. Yeah, these people are really interested in "the truth" alright... As long as it supports what they want to understand in in the first place (that there's a conspiracy).

[NevadaGhosts]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'W')ow, I post all those links (here's another great one) and all we get is people telling you not to listen to me. Yeah, these people are really interested in "the truth" alright... As long as it supports what they want to understand in in the first place (that there's a conspiracy).

[stu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'W')ow, I post all those links (here's another great one) and all we get is people telling you not to listen to me. Yeah, these people are really interested in "the truth" alright... As long as it supports what they want to understand in in the first place (that there's a conspiracy).

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NevadaGhosts', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PhilBiker', 'W')ow, I post all those links (here's another great one) and all we get is people telling you not to listen to me. Yeah, these people are really interested in "the truth" alright... As long as it supports what they want to understand in in the first place (that there's a conspiracy).

[threadbear]

Biker, You're ideas appear to be emotionally based and your links about Ruppert are from sources that are highly conflicted.

David Corn's assessment of Ruppert is typical of a left leaning gatekeeper engaged in limited hangouts that satisfy the bare minimum requirements of "alternative" news sources, while toadying favour inside the beltway and mainstream media as a token "radical".

[PhilBiker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')iker, You're ideas appear to be emotionally based and your links about Ruppert are from sources that are highly conflicted.

[threadbear]

If I remember right, Phil, you haven't even read most of what Ruppert has to say, yet you come close to popping an artery whenever his name is mentioned. You're accepting the critique of Ruppert by website authors who you don't know anything about, about someone you don't know, about ideas you've never read.

I've heard of the Kevin Bacon game when it comes to personal proximity to individuals, but using the same kind of degrees of separation game when it comes to where you are in relationship to the truth, it's rather sad.

Why don't you read the guy? Would it taint you to read something that doesn't have mainstream approval? Perhaps you'd develop the foul stench of being born on the wrong side of the ideological tracks?

[stu]

Yeah and I can guarantee that there are loads of links praising him for the work that he has done.

Ruppert is not exactly raking it in from his book sales. Crossing the Rubicon sold 60,000 copies. Not exactly enough to make him a millionaire is it.

Also according to Amazon the average rating for Rubicon is over 4 stars. I wouldn't say that was low.