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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby outcast » Wed 28 Jan 2009, 22:38:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he notion that evolution, while indisputable, may be best understood by something other than NeoDarwinist precepts or by something that includes NeoDarwinism but has a profound, deeper level does not register with some people.


Ok, so if you don't include neo-darwinian theories to explain evolution what else is there? The only so called alternatives I see are religious or superstitious in nature, something that quite frankly isn't allowed in science, so they aren't valid explanations.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 28 Jan 2009, 23:08:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he notion that evolution, while indisputable, may be best understood by something other than NeoDarwinist precepts or by something that includes NeoDarwinism but has a profound, deeper level does not register with some people.


Ok, so if you don't include neo-darwinian theories to explain evolution what else is there? The only so called alternatives I see are religious or superstitious in nature, something that quite frankly isn't allowed in science, so they aren't valid explanations.
This is how it goes with you, outcast. Your intellect is inflexible. And yes, I was referring to you with my comments. Go back and look at what I said. Current research suggests that there is something more to evolution than the current paradigm. Your argument, "what else is there?" is much like the old geological paradigm of geosynclines and miogeosynclines which were eventually shown to be wrong. The answer to "what else is there?" has yet to be established, but evidence is coming in that we have a long way to go to getting a more convincing theory of how life has evolved. Ever heard of phlogiston? If not, look it up. Btw, what is 'junk DNA'? Those are the parts of the strand that are supposed to have no known purpose. So? That's just the parts that aren't understood. Seems presumptuous to me to call it junk.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Wed 28 Jan 2009, 23:53:30

Also, regarding junk DNA, some of it has been found to have purposes. Some of it has been removed in mouse experiments with no apparent changes to phenotype. I'm not a geneticist but I would guess that there are evolutionary potentialities hidden in that 'junk.'
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby outcast » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 00:23:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'Y')our argument, "what else is there?" is much like the old geological paradigm of geosynclines and miogeosynclines which were eventually shown to be wrong.


Part of that post was generally aimed at vision master's insistence on some sort of supernatural or religious explanation.

The first part of that post I think I mis-interpreted what you said, so I apologize. I'll admit I haven't been able to keep up with current research since that is not what I'm studying, and I'll also admit I'm not a biologist.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bromius » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 00:23:40

I once read somewhere that a large amount of human DNA coincides with the genetic code of viruses. This kind of makes sense, since a virus reproduces by inserting its genetic material into that of the host cell, whose internal mechanisms serve to replicate the virus so that it can spread. Stretches of DNA which aren't known to code for any sort of protein are termed introns, some of which are self extracting. That being the case, one is faced with one hell of a chicken/egg scenario with respect to human and viral DNA/RNA respectively.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 01:04:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '
')Part of that post was generally aimed at vision master's insistence on some sort of supernatural or religious explanation.

The first part of that post I think I mis-interpreted what you said, so I apologize. I'll admit I haven't been able to keep up with current research since that is not what I'm studying, and I'll also admit I'm not a biologist.
That's OK. Also, it seems that many mainstream geneticists have balked at the notion of junk DNA. They prefer to call it non-coding DNA. I have an old classmate friend who is in that field. These days, that's where the scientific action is. Major riddles to be unraveled. The next plate tectonics revolution in understanding. Physics and Cosmology have probably far outreached the point where theory can be confirmed or refuted. Genetics and Evolution still can yield to research.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 10:15:44

Here's proof of lost ancient advanced tech, that has been hidden for centuries and is being un-covered as we speak.

'The Secret of the Universe' Magnetism, Coral Castle and the Freemasons

50 minutes long.....

Very cool. :cool:
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 10:23:20

49 days.........

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Tibetan Book of the Dead is the Tibetan text that is most well known to the West. Written by a Tibetan monk, the Book of the Dead describes in detail the stages of death from the Tibetan point of view. It chronicles the experiences and religious opportunities a person encounters at various stages: while dying, at the moment of death, during the 49-day interval between death and rebirth, and at rebirth.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he pineal makes its appearance 49 days into the gestation period, 49 days is also the mark during the gestation period when the sex can be determined.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby katkinkate » Thu 29 Jan 2009, 14:25:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'M')y point is we did not evolve from monkeys.


Of course not! Don't be ridiculous. Monkeys are contemporary primates. Both monkeys and humans both evolved from a common ancestor, millions of years ago, before there were monkeys or humans. They are like very, very distant cousins, millions of times removed.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby outcast » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 00:17:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere's proof of lost ancient advanced tech, that has been hidden for centuries and is being un-covered as we speak.



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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Fri 30 Jan 2009, 09:05:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('outcast', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere's proof of lost ancient advanced tech, that has been hidden for centuries and is being un-covered as we speak.



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Just watch the video for once. :cool:
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