[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'A')nd yet the data does not support that thesis.

Economic downturns result in reduced birth rates in the developed world.

Drop in Births Reported, And Recession Is Blamed (1991)

Shaky economy means ‘bye-bye baby’ for some (2009)

Pregnancy and Birth Rate Declines in Weak Economy

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')irth rates do tend to drop in times of economic uncertainty. There was a dramatic decline in fertility rates following the Great Depression in the 1930s, when, for the first time in U.S. history, women went from having an average of three children the previous decade to two.

In each year after the country’s last four recessions, general fertility rates — calculated as the number of women of child-bearing age per thousand who gave birth — dipped slightly. For example, in the year following the 1973-1975 recession, fertility rates dropped from 68.8 in 1973 to 65 in 1976, according to data from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Similarly, following the 1980-1982 recession, the fertility rate fell from 68.4 in 1980 to 65.7 in 1983.

[Revi]

My parents were born in the Great Depression as well. I'm sure there were big families, but you have to remember that times didn't get really bad until 1932. I don't think anyone knew the depression was going to be 10 years long.

Birth rates drop in bad times, but that doesn't mean that there aren't mouths to feed that were born a few years earlier.

[FairMaiden]

It funny, everytime there is discussion about the depression of the 30's ppl fail to mention that it was precipitated by the migration of jobs from human labour to machine and production efficiencies. Ford's assembly line put alot of ppl out of work. We have a similar situation now in that alot of jobs were shipped overseas...

Everyone keeps pointing out that the American economy is consumer driven (I'd argue 70% but agree with the basic fact). Who is say it HAS to stay that? Why could there not be gov't funded agro projects. Why do you have to ASSUME that NONE of the gov't driven projects this time around will help anything?

It just seems that all the conclusions and opinions on here are directed to all the possible negative outcomes. I'm not saying everything is peachy - FAR from it. But it doesn't have to be the end of the world as we know it either. (just the end of the y generation "me" greed world)

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', ' ')Why could there not be gov't funded agro projects.

[Snowrunner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'F')ield? They lived in the big city. 'Old age insurance'? Hardly. Get over those myths.

[Snowrunner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', 'I')t just seems that all the conclusions and opinions on here are directed to all the possible negative outcomes. I'm not saying everything is peachy - FAR from it. But it doesn't have to be the end of the world as we know it either. (just the end of the y generation "me" greed world)

[Revi]

If we suddenly got serious and actually put up solar panels on every roof, insulated every crappy apartment building and got an electric transportation system going we might have a chance.

I think we are going to end up with a lot of stuff we can't use all around us. Cars we can't afford to drive, houses we can't afford to heat and people we can't afford to feed.

It would be nice if people could prepare for things, but I think most of us lack the ability.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', 'T')hat would have been an option if Bush the Younger wouldn't have depleted the US Military.

I must have been one of the few back in 2003 was thankful for this folly, I realized that this would take a long time, lots of resources and severely limit the options when TSHTF.

[bratticus]

[StormBringer]

Seems to me we are arguing over a name for what is by any definition a really bad near future. I don't know why so much emphasis is being place on what to call it or what difference it will make. The only question is how long will this go on?

_______
Storm

[Snowrunner]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AgentR', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Snowrunner', 'T')hat would have been an option if Bush the Younger wouldn't have depleted the US Military.

I must have been one of the few back in 2003 was thankful for this folly, I realized that this would take a long time, lots of resources and severely limit the options when TSHTF.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'A')nd yet the data does not support that thesis.

Economic downturns result in reduced birth rates in the developed world.

Drop in Births Reported, And Recession Is Blamed (1991)

Shaky economy means ‘bye-bye baby’ for some (2009)

Pregnancy and Birth Rate Declines in Weak Economy

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')irth rates do tend to drop in times of economic uncertainty. There was a dramatic decline in fertility rates following the Great Depression in the 1930s, when, for the first time in U.S. history, women went from having an average of three children the previous decade to two.

In each year after the country’s last four recessions, general fertility rates — calculated as the number of women of child-bearing age per thousand who gave birth — dipped slightly. For example, in the year following the 1973-1975 recession, fertility rates dropped from 68.8 in 1973 to 65 in 1976, according to data from the National Center for Health Statistics, part of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. Similarly, following the 1980-1982 recession, the fertility rate fell from 68.4 in 1980 to 65.7 in 1983.

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd Beth Golden, a Scituate, Mass., mother of two, still plans to have a third child, despite her relatives admonishing her about the cost of college tuition. “I just feel that bringing a child into the world is much more important to me than thinking about financial responsibilities 18 years from now,” she says. “The joy a child brings to my life cannot amount to the value of anything else.”

Even if families intend to hold off, as the saying goes, the best laid plans often go astray.
Morgan points out that nearly 50 percent of pregnancies in the U.S. are “unintended.” “I would expect some fertility downturn, but the spigot will not be turned off,” he says. “People will continue to smoke, drink — and have sex.”

[Jester]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')he best definition is that a Recession is when someone you know loses their job, while a Depression is when you lose your job.

[EnergyUnlimited]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')he best definition is that a Recession is when someone you know loses their job, while a Depression is when you lose your job.

[IgnoranceIsBliss]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jester', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('dinopello', 'T')he best definition is that a Recession is when someone you know loses their job, while a Depression is when you lose your job.

[manu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Aaron', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'T')he lemmings are now being shoved over the cliff by the other lemmings.

[manu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FairMaiden', 'I')t funny, everytime there is discussion about the depression of the 30's ppl fail to mention that it was precipitated by the migration of jobs from human labour to machine and production efficiencies. Ford's assembly line put alot of ppl out of work. We have a similar situation now in that alot of jobs were shipped overseas...

Everyone keeps pointing out that the American economy is consumer driven (I'd argue 70% but agree with the basic fact). Who is say it HAS to stay that? Why could there not be gov't funded agro projects. Why do you have to ASSUME that NONE of the gov't driven projects this time around will help anything?

It just seems that all the conclusions and opinions on here are directed to all the possible negative outcomes. I'm not saying everything is peachy - FAR from it. But it doesn't have to be the end of the world as we know it either. (just the end of the y generation "me" greed world)

[lowem]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'H')ang the top CEO's.

[SeaGypsy]

One would think the least tht should happen in payback terms is exactly that. Every 2 faced slimebag involved in peddling sub prime mortgages to people obviously unable to repay; in my opinion at least, should be asset stripped pronto& permanently.
They callously manipulated and left millions struggling in their wake; why should they now have any economic freedom?
Screw locking them up or hanging them; they have already cost far in excess of their worth.