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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 22:23:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')ou've got your little farm and heirloom seeds and the entire world crumbles all around you and your little band ready to go it alone. No fuel, no supplies, nothing but dieing desperate people for a thousand miles in every direction. Not too hopeful. Very bad scene. A million to one against you.


Yep, I agree. That's why it needs to be more than "little bands," it needs to be communities, working with neighboring communities. But not many folks are working on that, as far as I know.
Yes, that's why we'd better hope for a slow decline and not a rapid collapse. Who coined that term consensus trance? Was it Kunstler? He also laments the decline of small towns across America. Small towns that do still exist need gasoline for their pickup trucks, and so on. And then again, they need parts for their equipment and so on. They need fertilizer and pesticides for their crops and so on. They need replacement ammo for their firearms and so on. and so on and so on...
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby errorist » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 22:27:51

One question to you, Ludi. What happens to all the fancy fighter-bombers, tanks and nuclear explosive devices when state fails, becomes non-existent and is being fractioned to communities?

I personally see an independent community rising on that load of hardware. You?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')ou've got your little farm and heirloom seeds and the entire world crumbles all around you and your little band ready to go it alone. No fuel, no supplies, nothing but dieing desperate people for a thousand miles in every direction. Not too hopeful. Very bad scene. A million to one against you.


Yep, I agree. That's why it needs to be more than "little bands," it needs to be communities, working with neighboring communities. But not many folks are working on that, as far as I know.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Ludi » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 22:33:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('errorist', 'O')ne question to you, Ludi. What happens to all the fancy fighter-bombers, tanks and nuclear explosive devices when state fails, becomes non-existent and is being fractioned to communities?

I personally see an independent community rising on that load of hardware. You?


Beat's me. Seems like those things would be pretty useless without fuel.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 22:34:01

Cashmere should be among the Top 10 Doomers.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 23:54:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '
')Beat's me. Seems like those things would be pretty useless without fuel.


I just had an acid flashback to Travolta's Battlefield Earth where the protagonist winds up firing up a fighter jet held in cold storage for aeons. ;)
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby davep » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 08:14:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', 'Y')ou've got your little farm and heirloom seeds and the entire world crumbles all around you and your little band ready to go it alone. No fuel, no supplies, nothing but dieing desperate people for a thousand miles in every direction. Not too hopeful. Very bad scene. A million to one against you.


Yep, I agree. That's why it needs to be more than "little bands," it needs to be communities, working with neighboring communities. But not many folks are working on that, as far as I know.


That's an important element of my planning. No man is an island etc...
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby holmes » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 11:15:12

Hello Dino!
Good to see you!
The thing is is that I have all the blue prints for my Earthship. I was actively looking for land. But there has to be a paradigm shift for any of these things to work. it has to be millions of people in on it doing these things. Off grid housing and food production. If not it really is a waste of time. Logically the ones who are the most MOBILE and can adjust to that lifestyle will have the best chance. Think about it. In america alone counting illegals there is probably 350,000,000+ (in the not too distant future) people that will be crazed when the socialism eventually runs dry. Maybe one million who build their bunkers SPREAD OUT THIN all over the country. Judging by the anger and hatred in these insulated GOOD TIMES OF PLENTY people will have no problem destroying everyhing. We see glimpses of the internal rage within soccer moms and "upstanding citizens" when their suv might be taken away or gas goes up. Thats why when the calories are not met I do not rule out cannibalism. We have and are converting/sequestering energy into human biomass production. It is only logic. People truly are in the fantasy world still and it will take some time to bottom out. Longer than most doomers think. Like PMS said it will be a long decline.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby holmes » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 11:29:01

Now if young folk mass exodus to the medium sized cities and created something like "collectives". Revitalized the cities. Not a commune but where everyone was just living and producing and Took them over so to speak Then I would not be as doomed. But there is no large scale exodus or community mindset like that. We are most definately lost and hopefully we look from within not seek some outside bullshit fix.
Thats where I am living. But most people are still hung up here in America with talking and socializing outside there little click. I am afraid there are so many assholes now. Assholes have bred for generations now so we have generations of assholes. We are an asshole barbaric society. Shit food, tv and computers have destroyed us. We are a frightened whining child. Filled with Rage! LOL! God help us all.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 13:46:30

I just never see these assholes in real life. I must live in an asshole-light area. I know they must be out there, I just never encounter them. Of course it helps that I don't go into town much. :)
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 14:36:04

Pops use to get a lot of respect on here, but nowadays nobody pays attention to his old ass.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 14:48:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ops use to get a lot of respect on here, but nowadays [s]nobody[/s] too few pay attention to his old ass.


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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby TireFire » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 15:29:07

Doomers make me laugh.
Specially Monte.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby davep » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 15:38:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TireFire', 'D')oomers make me laugh.
Specially Monte.
:lol:


Sorry, I'm still having an issue with this. Genuine Doomers shit their pants, sell everything and buy a 'compound' with guns and dogs. They don't do decking and quality raised beds.

Doomerism is what you do in the real world because in your belly you know you have to react. It's not what you say on a talkboard. And people try to label me as a cornucopian :-D
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby TireFire » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 16:01:35

What do you know; cornucopian.

:mrgreen:

Anybody who sells everything they have to live in a rat hole and polish their own guns are comic relief for me. While they try to hold on to a life that 'may' happen, they forget to live the life that is happening now.

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See you year. With the new price of oil being so low, I've started travelling more, and make a point to. If we're going to waste nature's ressources, I may as well have my share afterall.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby davep » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 16:16:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TireFire', 'W')hat do you know; cornucopian.

:mrgreen:


:lol:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TireFire', 'A')nybody who sells everything they have to live in a rat hole and polish their own guns are comic relief for me. While they try to hold on to a life that 'may' happen, they forget to live the life that is happening now.

[smilie=car3.gif]


I quit my job, sold my house and moved to the countryside. It's great. This is a life I'd like to lead without peak oil. The guns etc are an insurance policy, nothing more. I don't spend my days stroking them. Well, not every day.

After 18 months of preps, my money ran out, Being poor sucks (but being at home and prepping is good for your love life). So I got a job. I'm probably earning more than 95% of the posters here.

So, it's not a black and white scenario.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TireFire', 'S')ee you year. With the new price of oil being so low, I've started travelling more, and make a point to. If we're going to waste nature's ressources, I may as well have my share afterall.


I travel over 1000km to and from work every weekend. I'd rather not, but it pays the bills. Ive also recently had a holiday in Africa. I'm planning for us to go to an extravagant spa resort for my wife's birthday. Etc... Prepping and living your life are not mutually incompatible. Shit, enjoy it while you can. But also enjoy transitioning. Otherwise others will eventually enjoy you working for them as they transition.

Edit: I know I'm lucky. I'm not saying that we can all do what I do. But I do have to take a lot of stress and travelling to get where I want to.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Pops » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 17:40:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ops use to get a lot of respect on here, but nowadays nobody pays attention to his old ass.

Yea, it's getting kind of saggy and wrinkled, I'll post a pic if you want....
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Ferretlover » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 17:47:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ops use to get a lot of respect on here, but nowadays nobody pays attention to his old ass.

Yea, it's getting kind of saggy and wrinkled, I'll post a pic if you want....

NO! :lol:
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby PrairieMule » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 20:13:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'P')ops use to get a lot of respect on here, but nowadays nobody pays attention to his old ass.

Yea, it's getting kind of saggy and wrinkled, I'll post a pic if you want....


Sounds like someone who has already kissed his ass goodbye.

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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby Pops » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 20:56:09

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', 'S')ounds like someone who has already kissed his ass goodbye.

Don't start any rumors, you know how people talk.
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Re: Top Ten Doomers

Unread postby kpeavey » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 22:28:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'Y')ea, it's getting kind of saggy and wrinkled, I'll post a pic if you want....


That would be a CoC violation.
You'd have to delete yourself.
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