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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 18:54:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SteinarN', '
')Anyway, genetic and fossil evidence clearly indicates the common ancestor to all said modern human beeings originated in Africa and spread out from there some 50,000 or 100,000 years ago. The human as a species must be as old as the common ancestor or we wouldn't be one species but several closely related species.


"The first fossils of early modern humans to be identified were found in 1868 in a 27,000-23,000 year old rock shelter site near the village of Les Eyzies in southwestern France. They were subsequently named the Cro-Magnon people. They were very similar in appearance to modern Europeans. Males were 5 feet 4 inches to 6 feet tall (1.6-1.8 m.) That was 4-12 inches (10-31 cm.) taller than Neandertals. Their skeletons and musculature generally were less massive than the Neandertals. The Cro-Magnon had broad, small faces with pointed chins and high foreheads. Their cranial capacities were up to 1590 cm3, which is relatively large even for people today.

Current data suggest that modern humans evolved from archaic humans primarily in East Africa. A 195,000 year old fossil from the Omo 1 site in Ethiopia shows the beginnings of the skull changes that we associate with modern people, including a rounded skull case and possibly a projecting chin. A 160,000 year old skull from the Herto site in the Middle Awash area of Ethiopia also seems to be at the early stages of this transition. It had the rounded skull case but retained the large brow ridges of archaic humans. Somewhat more advanced transitional forms have been found at Laetoli in Tanzania dating to about 120,000 years ago. By 115,000 years ago, early modern humans had expanded their range to South Africa and into Southwest Asia shortly after 100,000 years ago. Evidently, they did not appear elsewhere in the Old World until 60,000-40,000 years ago. This was during a short temperate period in the midst of the last ice age."

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 18:58:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere is a photo of the Paluxy River in Glen Rose Texas. This rapidly flowing river runs through the middle of Dinosaur Valley State Park, famous for its dinosaur tracks. Not as well known is the fact that human tracks have also been found, not only in the same formation, but on the same bedding plane and in some cases overlapping the dinosaur tracks.



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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 20:38:16

NORTHWEST INDIAN MYTHS OF CATASTROPHE

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'M')oving up the Cascades we come to the Three Sisters which are visible from Eugene just down the road. The Warm Springs Indians say it was once the largest of all Cascade peaks but it erupted rather violently, featuring tidal waves of lava that engulfed many villages. When the smoke cleared only fragmented roots of the peak were seen. Since three were very prominent, the Indians remembered the event by casting it in a story of a chief with three wives and, needless to say, a considerably serious domestic problem. The Indian stories were told to whites around 1850. It was not until the 1920s when Edwin Hodge of the University of Oregon did a report on the Three Sisters are announced that these peaks were remnants of a volcano that must have been another mile in height. Three Sisters is presently dated at 25-27 million years ago, although Hodge in his report suggested that the lava looked so fresh it could have been laid down a few years before. If it was really 2.5-27 million years ago, what ever happen to those gentle giants of erosion, ice, snow and wind that used to reduce rocks to fragments or at least produced signs of weathering.

Stories abound in the Columbia River-Puget Sound area concerning the origin of some of these mountains and rivers. At least four tribes relate that mount Rainier was once on the western side of Puget Sound. He got o feeling crowded because other volcanoes were growing too large so moved over where he is presently located. It so happens that some scientists are now trying to
trace out the prehistoric earthquake activity of the Seattle area and have found evidence of many large earthquakes. The Bridge of the Gods in the Columbia river has many stories about it which suggest longstanding occupancy of the area by Indians. Some tribes say there was once a great tunnel under the Cascades and they used to go to the sea in rafts with pitch torches. Then severe volcanic activity at Mount Hood and mount Saint Helens caused massive earth movement and the bridge fell in. Since modern geologists suggest that the scablands flood virtually scoured the Columbia river valley at this point in the river, it would appear that these Indian tales go back prior to the scablands flood.



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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 21:45:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')Human footprint found next to Dinosaurs print
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We have been around a lot longer than 100,000 years.


/EYE ROLL

Dinos and humans were NOT alive at the same time, rofl. You need some basic Paleontology to get through the door, VM.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 11:36:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')chindler-Bellamy, believed Tiahuanaco to have reached back at least 12,000 years.

Peruvian legends clearly relate a story of world-wide flood in the distant past. Whether it was the biblical flood of Noah, or another one, we cannot say, but there is ample physical evidence of a universal inundation, with the world-wide deluge described in more than a hundred flood-myths.

One of the construction blocks from which the pier was fashioned weighs an estimated 440 tons (equal to nearly 600 full-size cars) and several other blocks laying about are between 100 and 150 tons. The quarry for these giant blocks was on the western shore of Titicaca, some ten miles away. There is no known technology in all the ancient world that could have transported stones of such massive weight and size.

To describe these things in detail would make a long story; it took
l)r. Allen and Professor Schindler-Bellamy and their helpers many years of hard work to puzzle out the Tiahuanaco system of notation and its symbology, and to make the necessary calculations (before the age of computers). The result was a book of over 400 pages, The Calendar of Tishuanaco, published
in 1956.

The "solar year" of the calendar's time had very practically the
same length as our own, but, as shown symbolically by the sculpture, the earth revolved more quickly then, making the Tiahuanacan year only 290 days, divided into 12 "twelfths" of 94 days each, plus 2 intercalary days. Tilese groupings (290, 24, 12, 2) are clearly and unmistakably shown in the sculpture. The explanation of 290 versus 3651/4 days cannot be discussed
here.

At the time Tiahuanaco flourished the present moon was not yet the companion ol our earth but was still an independent exterior planet. There was another satellite moving around our earth then, rather close-5.9 terrestrial radii, center to center; our present moon being at 60 radii. Because of its closeness it moved around the earth more quickly than our planet rotated. Therefore it rose in the west and set in the east (like Mars' satellite Phobos), and so caused a great number of solar eclipses, 37 in one "twelfth," or 447 in one "solar year " of course it caused an equal number of satellite eclipses. These groupings (37, 447) are shown in the sculpture, with many Corroborating cross-references. Different symbols show when these solar eclipses, which were of some duration, occurred: at sunrise, at noon, at sunset.

The most tantalizing fact of all is that the Tiahuanaco culture has no roots in that area. It did not grow there from humbler beginnings, nor is any other place of origin known. It seems to have appeared practically full blown suddenly.

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Puma Punku doesn’t look impressive: a hill as remains of an old pyramid and a large number of megalithic block of stone on the ground, evidently smashed by a devastating earthquake. However, closer inspection shows that these stone blocks have been fabricated with a very advanced technology. Even more surprising is the technical design of these blocks shown in the drawing below. All blocks fit together like interlocking building blocks.

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Jotapay » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:00:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')t the time Tiahuanaco flourished the present moon was not yet the companion ol our earth but was still an independent exterior planet. There was another satellite moving around our earth then, rather close-5.9 terrestrial radii, center to center; our present moon being at 60 radii. Because of its closeness it moved around the earth more quickly than our planet rotated. Therefore it rose in the west and set in the east (like Mars' satellite Phobos), and so caused a great number of solar eclipses, 37 in one "twelfth," or 447 in one "solar year " of course it caused an equal number of satellite eclipses. These groupings (37, 447) are shown in the sculpture, with many Corroborating cross-references. Different symbols show when these solar eclipses, which were of some duration, occurred: at sunrise, at noon, at sunset.


This is the first time I've EVER heard of this. WTF? I have seen those stone walls before though.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:18:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')t the time Tiahuanaco flourished the present moon was not yet the companion ol our earth but was still an independent exterior planet. There was another satellite moving around our earth then, rather close-5.9 terrestrial radii, center to center; our present moon being at 60 radii. Because of its closeness it moved around the earth more quickly than our planet rotated. Therefore it rose in the west and set in the east (like Mars' satellite Phobos), and so caused a great number of solar eclipses, 37 in one "twelfth," or 447 in one "solar year " of course it caused an equal number of satellite eclipses. These groupings (37, 447) are shown in the sculpture, with many Corroborating cross-references. Different symbols show when these solar eclipses, which were of some duration, occurred: at sunrise, at noon, at sunset.


This is the first time I've EVER heard of this. WTF? I have seen those stone walls before though.


In person?

There are other myths about 'The Twin Suns'. One of the 'suns' was actualy another planet called Tiamat, the watery Planet, 10 to 15 times larger than Earth that was destroyed causing the Deluge.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to the Enuma elish, the Earth came to rest as the third Rock from the Sun after this watery calamity. Here is where the Biblical genesis tale picks up the story, only telling it as a beginning, at the point where the waters of these two great bodies separated in the firmament, the waters belonging to two worlds going bump in the night. Current advances in astronomy have, in fact, corroborated certain aspects of this tale.

Utnapishtim told Gilgamesh of a terrible rain that came, so terrible that the gods fled. He told about his floating in his ship upon the waters and seeing in the distance a mountain called Nizir. Utnapishtim said that when the waters subsided he found silence and mud, that people outside his ship had turned to clay, and he said that his ship became stuck against Mount Nizir. He told Gilgamesh that he sent forth a dove, and that having found no place to rest, the dove returned. He told Gilgamesh that he then sent forth a swallow and then a raven. And he said that when the raven saw that the waters had abated, it ate and cawed and flew away.

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Jotapay » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:25:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')In person?

There are other myths about 'The Twin Suns'. One of the 'suns' was actualy another planet called Tiamat, the watery Planet, 10 to 15 times larger than Earth that was destroyed causing the Deluge.


Not in person, on the Discovery or National Geographic channel or something.

That twin suns theory is pretty outlandish. I'm not sure how that could be remotely possible and there is less than zero evidence to support that. There is strong evidence to support a cataclysmic flooding of the (previously dry) Black Sea from the Mediterranean Sea about 11,000 years ago, however.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:38:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
')In person?

There are other myths about 'The Twin Suns'. One of the 'suns' was actualy another planet called Tiamat, the watery Planet, 10 to 15 times larger than Earth that was destroyed causing the Deluge.


Not in person, on the Discovery or National Geographic channel or something.

That twin suns theory is pretty outlandish. I'm not sure how that could be remotely possible and there is less than zero evidence to support that. There is strong evidence to support a cataclysmic flooding of the (previously dry) Black Sea from the Mediterranean Sea about 11,000 years ago, however.


Of course it's outlandish to believe our Moon is an unnatural hollow object too.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')e think we know so much about our origins, yet science has yet to provide a satisfactory answer to explain even the origin of our closest neighbor in space, the Moon. It plays a critical role in the biosphere of the earth. It's ability to create a total eclipse of the sun is the result of its near perfect spherical shape AND its distance to the sun being PERFECTLY proportioned in relation to size to the sun. Is this just one more coincidence or just one more evidence of Divine Creation?

Lunar scientists in the immediate post-Apollo years explained these discrepancies by postulating that the moon had but a tiny core. In 1998, the Lunar Prospector, NASA's first mission to the moon since Apollo, confirmed that the moon's core indeed comprises less than three percent of its mass. (By contrast, Earth's core represents 30 percent of its mass.)



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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')his is the same picture as above, in the picture there are now two red circles added. The biggest red circle fits perfectly and is inscribed by the square. The smaller red circle’s is centered between the outer circle and the inner red circle and tangentially touches both.

Much to our surprise, the upper red circle represents the moon and the lower red circle represents the Earth! In mathematical terms: The ratio of the diameter of the smaller red circle to the bigger red circle r / R equals the ratio of the diameter of the moon to the diameter of the Earth! Now let’s prove it:
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Radius of the moon : r
Radius of the Earth : R
Side of the square is : 2R
The perimeter of the square is : 8 R
Radius of the outer circle is : r + R
The circumference of the outer circle is : 2 p ( r + R )

Now ‘squaring the circle’ makes the perimeter of the square equal to the circle:

8 R = 2 p ( r + R )

8 R - 2 p R = 2 p r

R (8 – 2 p) = 2 p r

r / R = (8 – 2 p) / 2 p = (4 – p) / p

Earth radius = 6,370,973 m
Moon radius = 1,738,000 m
Moon to Earth ratio = r / R = 0.27279977
r / R = (4 – p) / p = 0.273239544 (p = 3.14159265)


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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:38:50

[flash width=425 height=344]http://www.youtube.com/v/2_DXa3rFyUU&hl[/flash]
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:47:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', '[')flash width=425 height=344]http://www.youtube.com/v/2_DXa3rFyUU&hl[/flash]


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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 12:56:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')hildish


Oops, you are right!

I should be taking this very serious thread even more seriously.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 14:17:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'C')hildish


Childish, nostalgic and on-topic all at once--what more could you ask for?
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby POAlex » Tue 20 Jan 2009, 23:49:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'T')here is no one missing link, rather we are all Gods and unique in our own creation. HippyTrippy enough for ya?


Look at where the idea we're gods came from.

"But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil." (Genesis 3:3-5)

Satan.

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby yeahbut » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 01:00:04

Well that was disappointing reading after clicking on an promising thread title. Humans and dinosaurs co-existing, hollow moons, exploding water planets to explain a flood, gods and demons. Mods, suggest this thread be moved to Out of this World. Cheers
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby theinsider » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 01:16:04

Okay, let me see if I can pick this up a bit.

What are some recent evolutionary changes within humans? Or what are the current trends right now? That second question might be hard to answer given the complexity of our current situation on planet earth, pollution, industrialization, other environmental effects of cities.

I think some of the trends I have read are that we are getting taller, skulls are growing in magnitude, we are losing more hair, and possibly chin growth?

That's just some stuff I've heard/read. Can anyone confirm this? or add to this?
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby coloncleanse » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 08:02:38

Soap bublles always develop self sustaining wall regenerating mechanisms so that they can evolve into spaceships.
c'mon,. where is your sense of humor.

Evolution is a religion and they make billions off of government, they don't want to give it up. (Plus, if they teach evolution, they can pork women and drink beer all day without guilt )



If you wait many billions of years, a soapy water could not suddenly erupt self sustaining and self replicating bubbles that will determinidly develop millions of self interacting protein molecules, all left isomers transcribed by a coded glucose molecules, all right isomers, from a pool of mixed isomer amino acids and sugars which happened to pop into existance all within the same 20 minutes of their unstable lifespan. See, within minutes, these all degenerate, and all 18 trillion billion had to be there in the same twenty minutes. perfectly. just right.

sounds good to me, lets apply for a grant.

makes perfect sense to me.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Pretorian » Wed 21 Jan 2009, 10:23:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('coloncleanse', 'S')oap bublles always develop self sustaining wall regenerating mechanisms so that they can evolve into spaceships.
c'mon,. where is your sense of humor.

Evolution is a religion and they make billions off of government, they don't want to give it up. (Plus, if they teach evolution, they can pork women and drink beer all day without guilt )



If you wait many billions of years, a soapy water could not suddenly erupt self sustaining and self replicating bubbles that will determinidly develop millions of self interacting protein molecules, all left isomers transcribed by a coded glucose molecules, all right isomers, from a pool of mixed isomer amino acids and sugars which happened to pop into existance all within the same 20 minutes of their unstable lifespan. See, within minutes, these all degenerate, and all 18 trillion billion had to be there in the same twenty minutes. perfectly. just right.

sounds good to me, lets apply for a grant.

makes perfect sense to me.


So I assume you have guilt when you pork a woman or drink beer?
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