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Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:56:38

is total BS.

Show me the missing link, Lucy....... :razz:
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Re: Theory of evolution

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:59:23

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You do have a point. :razz:
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 11:59:37

Evolution isn't about monkeys and humans. It's more accurately referred to as the Theory of Natural Selection. It just means that environment or other factors favors certain organisms to survive to reproducing age and have viable offspring.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:01:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'Y')ou do have a point. :razz:

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:01:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'E')volution isn't about monkeys and humans. It's more accurately referred to as the Theory of Natural Selection. It just means that environment or other factors favors certain organisms to survive to reproducing age and have viable offspring.


So we haven't evolved, eh?
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:03:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'E')volution isn't about monkeys and humans. It's more accurately referred to as the Theory of Natural Selection. It just means that environment or other factors favors certain organisms to survive to reproducing age and have viable offspring.


So we haven't evolved, eh?


I have.

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:17:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 's')how me god


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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:18:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'i')s total BS.

Show me the missing link, Lucy....... :razz:
show me god


Don't you mean, show me a nephilim? :)


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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby bratticus » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 12:31:31

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby SteinarN » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 16:25:16

Evolution is many small steps, one at a time. Each step/change is not visible in a species but over time they add up and the species has changed visibly.

In many African countries hiv/aids is very widespread. Research show that some prostitutes dont get infected by the HIV virus. They have shown to have an natural ocuring gene making them resistant to HIV virus.

Today a few percent of the population in some African countries have this gene. Since those people is more likely to survive in the environment where HIV is widespread compared to those without this gene which is prone to HIV infection and an early death, researchers predict the ocurence of the resistance gene in the population will be much larger in a few generations. In the end most people will have this gene and the population as a whole will be imune against HIV.

When this happens we can say the population in those countries have taken a small step on the tree of evolution.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:05:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SteinarN', 'E')volution is many small steps, one at a time. Each step/change is not visible in a species but over time they add up and the species has changed visibly.

In many African countries hiv/aids is very widespread. Research show that some prostitutes dont get infected by the HIV virus. They have shown to have an natural ocuring gene making them resistant to HIV virus.

Today a few percent of the population in some African countries have this gene. Since those people is more likely to survive in the environment where HIV is widespread compared to those without this gene which is prone to HIV infection and an early death, researchers predict the ocurence of the resistance gene in the population will be much larger in a few generations. In the end most people will have this gene and the population as a whole will be imune against HIV.

When this happens we can say the population in those countries have taken a small step on the tree of evolution.


I call this 'adaptation'. Has our DNA changed since early times? Like since the begining of our species?
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:14:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'i')s total BS.

Show me the missing link, Lucy....... :razz:
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Which one?
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby obixman » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:19:07

"I call this 'adaptation'. Has our DNA changed since early times? Like since the begining of our species?"

Certainly - there is a not-uncommon (today) genetic mutation which results in people who have only two incisors in their lower jaw (I happen to have this, so I've read up on it), when traced thru time via skeletons, it is obvious that the incidence of this mutation is increasing thru time\ - eventually (in not many more generations) they will have to rewrite the medical books.

We ARE changing - just very slowly. Take a look at ancient suits of armor and see if you can fit in. Nutrition among the noble class was not too different from today, yet few people today could fit into one.

The important thing about natural selection isn't that you survive - if you do congraulations. The important thing for speciation is that you reproduce.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby SteinarN » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:35:07

I'm not absolutely sure when the "beginning" of our species was. Maybe 50,000 years ago? It is at least as long ago that the common ancestor to all modern days humans, like the white european, chinese, australian aborignies, american indians and warious African populations was still alive. Thus the said "variations" of the human species had not yet come into existence.

Anyway, genetic and fossil evidence clearly indicates the common ancestor to all said modern human beeings originated in Africa and spread out from there some 50,000 or 100,000 years ago. The human as a species must be as old as the common ancestor or we wouldn't be one species but several closely related species.

Logically that common ancestor didn't quite look like any of the nowadays humans, but still probably close the the modern Africans as they still live in the same environment.

As I see it the DNA has changed slightly since the origin of our species. The different "brands" of modern days humans has developed various characteristics and adaptions to various environments on the Eart. Take skin colour as an example. Eskimos and most europeans have skin color adapted to a lifestyle with not that much sun and where the body is covered in clothes as opposed to Africans. This small difference requires a slight difference in the DNA.

Therefore our DNA must have changed ever so slightly since the origin of our species.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:40:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SteinarN', 'I')'m not absolutely sure when the "beginning" of our species was. Maybe 50,000 years ago? It is at least as long ago that the common ancestor to all modern days humans, like the white european, chinese, australian aborignies, american indians and warious African populations was still alive. Thus the said "variations" of the human species had not yet come into existence.

Anyway, genetic and fossil evidence clearly indicates the common ancestor to all said modern human beeings originated in Africa and spread out from there some 50,000 or 100,000 years ago. The human as a species must be as old as the common ancestor or we wouldn't be one species but several closely related species.

Logically that common ancestor didn't quite look like any of the nowadays humans, but still probably close the the modern Africans as they still live in the same environment.

As I see it the DNA has changed slightly since the origin of our species. The different "brands" of modern days humans has developed various characteristics and adaptions to various environments on the Eart. Take skin colour as an example. Eskimos and most europeans have skin color adapted to a lifestyle with not that much sun and where the body is covered in clothes as opposed to Africans. This small difference requires a slight difference in the DNA.

Therefore our DNA must have changed ever so slightly since the origin of our species.


Human footprint found next to Dinosaurs print
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We have been around a lot longer than 100,000 years.
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:46:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'H')ere is a photo of the Paluxy River in Glen Rose Texas. This rapidly flowing river runs through the middle of Dinosaur Valley State Park, famous for its dinosaur tracks. Not as well known is the fact that human tracks have also been found, not only in the same formation, but on the same bedding plane and in some cases overlapping the dinosaur tracks.

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http://www.bible.ca/tracks/taylor-trail.htm
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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:51:54

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('bratticus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'E')volution isn't about monkeys and humans. It's more accurately referred to as the Theory of Natural Selection. It just means that environment or other factors favors certain organisms to survive to reproducing age and have viable offspring.


So we haven't evolved, eh?


I have.

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You are BabyPeanut?!!

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Re: Theory of evolution

Unread postby vision-master » Mon 19 Jan 2009, 17:54:37

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1958, Dr. Johannes Huerzeler, of the Museum of Natural History in Basel, Switzerland, unearthed a human jawbone at a depth of 600 feet, in a coal mine in Tuscany, Italy. The bone had belonged to a child, between the ages of five and seven. Though flattened like a sheet of iron, the jaw was declared by several experts to be not only human, but modern-looking at that. But what mystified them was that it had been encased in a Miocene stratum - geologically dated at 20 million years.


http://www.pureinsight.org/node/961
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