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Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby bratticus » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 09:28:25

Some people are experiencing difficulty sleeping these days.

Are you?

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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby StormBringer » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 11:58:21

For more than 5 years now I don't think I've had a good nights sleep. The constant input of death disaster and impending end of society as we know it takes a toll. I've been told It goes back to our instinct for survival...Impending feelings of doom cause heightened senses and a need to be semi awake state at all times.

As for myself the dreams are worse than the reality. I've tried many things to calm these impending feelings but of late nothing is making much of a dent. I wish I had some advice to help but it appears we are on the same boat.


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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby SpringCreekFarm » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 12:04:17

I sometimes find myself awake at 3am or so and that is when doomerish thoughts keep me awake. During the day I'm fine, but when I awake in the middle of the night, the fear of the future can be overwhelming. Sometimes I go for a walk to the barn at that time just to get some perspective and balance. Being around my animals gives me comfort and reassurance.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby dinopello » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 12:06:08

I sleep like a baby.

Wake up every 2 hours and cry.

(John McCain's favorite joke).
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby rangerone314 » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 12:36:56

I sleep fine...

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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 13:32:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StormBringer', 'F')or more than 5 years now I don't think I've had a good nights sleep. The constant input of death disaster and impending end of society as we know it takes a toll. I've been told It goes back to our instinct for survival...Impending feelings of doom cause heightened senses and a need to be semi awake state at all times.

As for myself the dreams are worse than the reality. I've tried many things to calm these impending feelings but of late nothing is making much of a dent. I wish I had some advice to help but it appears we are on the same boat.




Pretty damn unhealthy there, especially considering how important regular sleep is for us bipolar folks.

I sleep pretty well except when my husband snores, or when I am obsessing about something unhealthily.

There's no survival advantage to sleepless nights of anxiety.

I suggest you visit your physician, and discuss your sleeping problems. You can either get a prescription or over-the-counter sleep aid, or if you want, you might try herbal sleep remedies, which I find can work fairly well. Some people like Valerian, but I find it gives me a hangover, and it smells like old dirty socks. I prefer a mixture of Passionvine and Lemon Balm. Chamomile works well for some people. None of these tend to interact with any prescriptions you may already be taking, though you should probably discuss it with your doc.

Regular vigorous physical exercise also helps with sleep (at least 20 minutes per day). Don't exercise for a few hours before bed, though. Also, not eating or drinking soon before bed (especially avoiding caffiene and alcohol).

Meditation helps some people but makes things worse for others. Prayer can help some people.

I should mention I used to have such severe anxiety I used to wake up throughout the night in terror, with painful chest and pounding heart. This went on for a few years before I was diagnosed with anxiety disorder among other things. Everything scared me, or rather, I found things to worry about because I felt so anxious, there had to be a "real reason" for such anxiety. But there wasn't a real reason. Nothing was wrong in my life, actually.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Ainan » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 15:31:47

I rarely have problems sleeping, such is the advantage of being a misanthropist. Bring it on! :lol:
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 15:46:46

I think peak oil has been very bad for my health. After I moved back to MA I haven't been exercising and working at home I've been turning into Brian Wilson. I have to break down and buy some exercize equipment.

Not being able to prep where I am now, and the high stakes of my house purchase decision, and the impending mortgage debt and my uncertain career future is stressing me out beyond belief. I'd say I've been in freakout mode for about a year and a half straight.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Byron100 » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 16:03:04

Having trouble sleeping is generally the least of my worries, except I do go through periods in which I might wake up around 3 am, and have a bit of trouble getting back to sleep. But falling asleep is usually a snap for me, taking just a handful minutes on average. And I sleep even better when there's a raging storm outside, high winds and all - go figure.

But if it's hot in the room, forget it. This is one of the things that terrify me about living in the South should there be an electricity shortage - I gotta have that AC to get any sleep at all, let alone a restful one. My dependence on AC is one of the primary reasons I want to live out my later years in a place such as central New York, as I'd never be able to survive a southern summer without AC. When I was living in South Florida, there was one night (out of 11 years +) in which the power was out during a near-miss of Hurricane Frances, but I was able to leave the bedroom slider and the opposite window slightly cracked for a refreshing indoor breeze...LOL. It was either that or pull an all-nighter.

Other than that, I'm a pretty good sleeper, even if I have coffee just before bed, etc.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby sittinguy » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 16:04:39

Ambien, I have used it for years, No hangover AT ALL. Instead of the k hole, its the a hole. (joke)
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby BigTex » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 16:08:08

Remember what Anton Chigurh said to his latest victim in No Country for Old Men.

[I'm paraphrasing]

"If your beliefs led you to this point, here, of what use were they?"

We're all living out our own personal storylines. Each one is a little different, and each one presupposes a different version of "objective" reality.

Don't let what you perceive to be absolute prevent you from enjoying life.

Don't build a bunker and find that it's a prison.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Byron100 » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 16:21:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', 'I') think peak oil has been very bad for my health. After I moved back to MA I haven't been exercising and working at home I've been turning into Brian Wilson. I have to break down and buy some exercize equipment.

Not being able to prep where I am now, and the high stakes of my house purchase decision, and the impending mortgage debt and my uncertain career future is stressing me out beyond belief. I'd say I've been in freakout mode for about a year and a half straight.


Have you bought a house, or about to? If you haven't closed yet, is it too late to back out? Boston is one of the places where housing prices have more to fall, IMO, not that it matters if you plan on making it your final doomstead.

In any case, I don't see how anyone can stay in "freakout mode" for such long periods of time. :( If it's that bad, I'd recommend taking a pharmaceutical - either prescription or herbal. Your health is the most precious asset of all - everything else is secondary.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 12 Jan 2009, 16:42:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Byron100', '
')In any case, I don't see how anyone can stay in "freakout mode" for such long periods of time. :( If it's that bad, I'd recommend taking a pharmaceutical - either prescription or herbal. Your health is the most precious asset of all - everything else is secondary.



100% agree. The dangers of stress are well known. You can wind up with hypertension, lowered immunity, and other lasting problems such as depression and anxiety disorder if you don't already have these.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 01:32:45

Freaking out is good for the body and soul. Highly recommended!
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby StormBringer » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 01:35:25

Well it seems at least Im not the only one not sleeping well.

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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby PrairieMule » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:13:51

Well I have trouble sleeping and sometimes its doom related. I cope with a ecclectic sense of humor. I'll seek out something so funny it just overloads the senses. If I'm up at 3 three I'll watch "Spinal Tap" or check out new images on worth1000.com. I'll try to find something to make me laugh so hard then you forget the gas shortages in Memphis or any other doom articles A,B, and C. I'd describe it almost like like a drunk piling down whiskey till he passes out. Things discussed here are to heavy for the mere mortal psyche.

Everyone has to find a way to cope. You have to balance your coping mechanism with the information you take in and your preps.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby threadbear » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 02:47:12

I have trouble sleeping for purely physical reasons. Cheap anti-histamines will knock me out pretty well though. I can take 3 or 4 ambien and not feel a thing. I could probably take 20 mls of valium (not that I have) and nap for a few minutes. I NEVER get enough deep sleep. I just have to live with it, as there's no cure for what I've got. The only benefit,is feeling slightly drunk during the day...not maudlin sad drunk, just kind of pleasant, hi how are ya' kind of buzz.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby Sixstrings » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 08:01:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')If your beliefs led you to this point, here, of what use were they?"


That is the great catch-22 of Doomerism. What is Doom, after all, but the concern about a decline in quality of life? The irony here is that the more you worry about not living, the less time you have to live. ;)

But at the end of the day, I'm glad I'm aware of the issues discussed on this forum. When things come to a head, at least I won't be in a state of shock.

As for sleeping, can't say I have much trouble there. I had some problems years ago, and back then I took melatonin (natural supplement) which seemed to work.

For folks having trouble sleeping, it's trite advice but I'll dispense it anyway: try taking a trip out of town, or just doing something new local. Prioritize whatever activities you have that will lift your spirits, relax and comfort you. Most of all, get away for a while from whatever it is that's dragging your mood down. Find a way to get it off your mind for a while.

If Doom is gonna happen, it's gonna happen regardless of whether we are happy or miserable. So why not be happy? ;)
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby JJ » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 08:17:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'I') have trouble sleeping for purely physical reasons. Cheap anti-histamines will knock me out pretty well though. I can take 3 or 4 ambien and not feel a thing. I could probably take 20 mls of valium (not that I have) and nap for a few minutes. I NEVER get enough deep sleep. I just have to live with it, as there's no cure for what I've got. The only benefit,is feeling slightly drunk during the day...not maudlin sad drunk, just kind of pleasant, hi how are ya' kind of buzz.


I can take a few benadryl and it knocks me out, but then I have vivid nightmares.....I'm 50 and I doesn't seem that I need as much sleep as I used to.
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Re: Difficulty Sleeping

Unread postby rangerone314 » Tue 13 Jan 2009, 11:14:51

I really don't think the future is going to be some situation like in a zombie movie, where one's doomstead is surrounded by hordes trying to get in.

I do not think a collapse will be quick or sudden, and it will hit different people and different areas at different rates of time. I tend to think the worst prepared & poorest would be the first to go monkeys**t and the rest of people would take them out.

I bought my 2 1/4 acres with 3 streams and a woods, with intention of walling it in with cypress & a wooden fence so it isn't advertised what I have.

And I am going to make a longish Japanese pond & hill garden in the center of the property that will be a place of relaxation. The areas of intersection with other permaculture guilds will be a gentle transition.

For examples in a walnut/hazlenut guild you can have maples, and maples will be on the edge of that guild and the edge of the Japanese garden. The willow/blueberry guild will have rhododenrons and azaleas on their edge and the edge of the Japanese garden.

Think of the Japanese garden as the center oval/circle, with several other overlapping circles surrounding it...

Even if the worst of the peak oil scenarios don't play out, I will still have a sustainable supply of food to defray costs (money NOT spent on food can be spent on solar panels or paying off the house earlier)
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