Trails are cool. Visited the Superior Hiking trail up north - but didn't hike it much. Beautiful.
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Hey OldSprocket, I am planning on doing BRAN this year. I am pretty excited, but am hoping on picking up a real roadbike soon. Might be a long ride on a heavy bastard fixie.
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by mgibbons19 » Fri 11 Mar 2005, 21:03:40
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Re: Kansas to Utah: A 1027 Mile Hike
by Backpacker » Sat 12 Mar 2005, 00:10:28
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercury_firefly', 'L')ately i have very seriously considering traveling on foot to my home in Wellington, Kansas, to my mothers house in Salt Lake City, Utah. I feel that nothing would give you a greater sense of accomplishment that undertaking and completely such a trip. Also, it would prepare me to live a completely different lifestyle that what i'm used to. Going on a trip like this would give me a sense of what it's like to live a hard life. It would be the opposite life of what i've been living for the entire 18 years of my life. I kind of feel this will prepare my for a hard life i will be facing once oil is no longer a viable fuel option.
I really want to do this. I'm curious to know what the legal ramifications of this would be. I'm 18, i will be graduating high school in a few months.
Also, what i would need for a trip. My list thus far is: Large hiking backpack, Sleeping bag, small pillow, small medkit, sewing kit, two quality knives, walking stick, 4 shirts, 2 pairs of shorts, 2 pairs of pants, rain poncho, quality waterproof hiking shoes, hat, sun screan and other personal hygeine items, compass, small portable pop tent(if i can find one that is, if not i'll take a tarp and make a tent out of that), wilderness survival book (i already have one and have it well memorized), atleast 300$ in cash.
I've done the math on this. I've figured i can walk five miles an hour for nine hours a day, that's fourty-five miles a day. At that rate it will take me around twenty-five days to reach Salt Lake City. I would also be burning about three-thousand calories a day.
My biggest problem thus far is food. I would defently fill the empty space in my pack with all the food i could. The money i would be taking would ONLY be used to replenish my food supplies.
Also, i have a friend who i have been talking to this about. She was the one who put the origional idea into my head. She say she would go with me (i'm a male, by the way). She knows some people in colorado we could stay with for a few days. That's about the half way mark, so a rest would be well deserved.
I really want to do this. I'm curious to know what the legal ramifications of this would be. I'm 18, i will be graduating high school in a few months.
Also, what i would need for a trip. My list thus far is: Large hiking backpack, Sleeping bag, small pillow, small medkit, sewing kit, two quality knives, walking stick, 4 shirts, 2 pairs of shorts, 2 pairs of pants, rain poncho, quality waterproof hiking shoes, hat, sun screan and other personal hygeine items, compass, small portable pop tent(if i can find one that is, if not i'll take a tarp and make a tent out of that), wilderness survival book (i already have one and have it well memorized), atleast 300$ in cash.
I've done the math on this. I've figured i can walk five miles an hour for nine hours a day, that's fourty-five miles a day. At that rate it will take me around twenty-five days to reach Salt Lake City. I would also be burning about three-thousand calories a day.
My biggest problem thus far is food. I would defently fill the empty space in my pack with all the food i could. The money i would be taking would ONLY be used to replenish my food supplies.
Also, i have a friend who i have been talking to this about. She was the one who put the origional idea into my head. She say she would go with me (i'm a male, by the way). She knows some people in colorado we could stay with for a few days. That's about the half way mark, so a rest would be well deserved.
The most important item to keep in your backpack is a water purification pump. They can be purchased at outfitters for around $80. Get a replacement filter and purification pills. You can survive for a few weeks without food but only a few days without water. This is especially critical since you will be hiking in the hot, dry southwest. You need to plot your trip so that you are in reasonable vicinity to water sources. Mark off on your map each water source you find so that you can go back to it in the event that your next days journey does not bring you to a water source. 3 days water should be kept on your person. Invest in a backpack that has a hydration bladdder in it or a pouch to hold a hydration bladder for ease of carrying.
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by mercury_firefly » Mon 14 Mar 2005, 12:30:13
Since i first created this thread a few things have changed. I've decided to go with a friend on my trip. Secondly, i'm going to hike to Baily, Colorado. That total distance from there to where i'm at now is 741 miles. I've given myself a more realistic daily goal of hiking 20 miles. It should take about a month to get to where i'm going at that pace.
I'm still having problems with finding hiking boots and finding food that would be good for such a trip. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm still having problems with finding hiking boots and finding food that would be good for such a trip. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.
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by Michael_Layden » Mon 14 Mar 2005, 15:38:00
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mercury_firefly', 'S')ince i first created this thread a few things have changed. I've decided to go with a friend on my trip. Secondly, i'm going to hike to Baily, Colorado. That total distance from there to where i'm at now is 741 miles. I've given myself a more realistic daily goal of hiking 20 miles. It should take about a month to get to where i'm going at that pace.
I'm still having problems with finding hiking boots and finding food that would be good for such a trip. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.
I'm still having problems with finding hiking boots and finding food that would be good for such a trip. Any more advice would be greatly appreciated.
Even if 20 miles per day is possible, I would set a target of about 17 a day. Learn your physical limits and only increase to 20 miles per day if you are finding yourself reasonable comfortable the next day . Keep yourself in good order and as you get comfortable be more ambitious. You will have the damage done before you know it. So start slow and find what your bodies natural pace is. You should find that every evening you have some energy left.
The best pair of walking boots I ever had were a pair of cheap $30 steel toed boots I got in a large store and the worst were a pair of $200 hiking boots I got in a Outdoor shop.
Only buy boots in the Afternoon after your feet have swollen to their normal size. Morning and evening can be substantially different.!! Find out do you need arch support etc. Join a hiking Site and ask them what the best pair of boots is .
You can start hardening your feet early, many people start using various oils, creams etc. (don't know if this is a good idea, you could talk to a Physical fitness person !!) Insoles are also extremely good, some of the antishock insoles are very good on hard surfaces.
Socks are important. I found however that wool and Goretex can get very hot but regular stops and taking off the boots kept that under control. I like Coolmax based cotton socks in hot conditions.
The backpack and weight is second only to the boots and make sure you try to walk with in boots with the backpack on before you decide on what type of boots. You walk very differnetly with a backpack than without. Particularly with a heavy pack you will need better heel support and cushioning.
Glad to hear you heading a more scenic and shorter route. Good luck and you will find it a great experience. But be ruthless with weight !!!. After the first few days go to a post office and send stuff home. It's amazing how focused you will be on what you really need when youve carried it on you back for a few days. You can also figure out what post offices are on your route and post things there to collect on your way. You can even use the same boxes to send stuff home. !!
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by spear » Mon 14 Mar 2005, 16:26:51
Food for the trip is OATMEAL.
A can of quaker should last a week.The bars get mushy.
High protein,high carb and you will need a LOT of carbs.
Eat at night so the body digests fully and can use it the next day.
You may not like it but its the only thing practical.And has all you need in it.
Dried fruit for snacks.Chop them up and throw them in the oatmeal for flavor.
Multi vitamins.Or at least vitamin C
Cross train hikers for footwear.
Small nylon 2 man tent in CAMO.fits anywhere and is almost INVISIBLE at night.
And the leatherman or swiss army knife. whatever.
Dont forget,Iraqi refugees did it with a lot less to get to Turkey from their country.
A can of quaker should last a week.The bars get mushy.
High protein,high carb and you will need a LOT of carbs.
Eat at night so the body digests fully and can use it the next day.
You may not like it but its the only thing practical.And has all you need in it.
Dried fruit for snacks.Chop them up and throw them in the oatmeal for flavor.
Multi vitamins.Or at least vitamin C
Cross train hikers for footwear.
Small nylon 2 man tent in CAMO.fits anywhere and is almost INVISIBLE at night.
And the leatherman or swiss army knife. whatever.
Dont forget,Iraqi refugees did it with a lot less to get to Turkey from their country.
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by bart » Mon 14 Mar 2005, 16:46:32
The world of long-distance hiking has been shaken up in the last 10-15 years by the minimalists -- who seek to keep the weight of pack and boots minimal in the interests of a faster more enjoyable pace. (I gave the names of some of these people in a previous post.)
Shoes/boots are especially critical because they are lifted up and down with every step, so an extra pound on the feet equals several pounds on the back.
The thinking among these people is NOT to wear heavy boots, but to go with light athletic shoes.
As you might guess, it is a controversial topic. But if you are going on a long-dx hike, you should consider the possibility of light footwear. I've used boots, running shoes and athletic sandals.
Best of luck.
Shoes/boots are especially critical because they are lifted up and down with every step, so an extra pound on the feet equals several pounds on the back.
The thinking among these people is NOT to wear heavy boots, but to go with light athletic shoes.
As you might guess, it is a controversial topic. But if you are going on a long-dx hike, you should consider the possibility of light footwear. I've used boots, running shoes and athletic sandals.
Best of luck.
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Hawaii
by ReverseEngineer » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 09:33:42
OK gang, I am off to Hawaii. The trip is work related, but I tell you when I booked it a few months ago I didn't even think Alaska Airlines would be flying. Shows how good I am with timelines here on the collapse. LOL.
Anyhow, I'll try to report in a few times when I am not basking in the sun on probably my last Great Adventure outside the Last Great Frontier. Of course, you can all get on my case for being a big hypocrite here and being a profligate consumer of Jet Fuel and living like a Pigman while children in India are starving, but this is the society I grew up in and I do in fact have money enough to do this sort of thing periodically. Actually, since its work related, it doesn't cost me anything.
I'm going to study a few things during the Hawaii trip. One would be an estimation of survivability for the current population there. Also I'm going to try to get a look at Kilauea, which is erupting at the moment along with a good portion of the other volcanoes on Earth.
The biggest leap for me is leaving my preps behind. Paranoid Doomer that I am, it worries me that JUST when I head for Hawaii, Martial Law gets declared and I am STUCK in Honolulu with NO PREPS! I am going to pack a few freeze dried foods just in case
Hawaii is the only state I really haven't seen much of, though I flew a few times through there on the way to Australia in my younger days. I saw all the US states while driving the Big Rig, in fact I drove every mile of all the Interstate highways during those years. Also covered most of Canada. My main visuaizations of Hawaii come from the film about its discovery and the subsequent Christian Mision to save the islanders from their Heathen Ways based o the James Michener novel. In my romantic mind of course,I was appalled by the disruption of that society by the Christians of the day. Wouldn't it have been nice if the Hawaiians had just been left ALONE there? They were doing just fine I think before we got there. Fishing the waters in dugout canoes, it seems in my mind just perfect.
Hawaii of course took a major role in WWII, that of course is where the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and I'll go visit that site as well. The big War for Oil that we won, basically turning the rest of the world into a slave state in the aftermath, and providing a couple of generations of Ameicans a very comfortable living, until of course the Oil started running thin in our on country and we had to go in debt to keep the lifestyle and expectations up.
Even on Vacation, I can't get away from the Doom. Since I am profligatley wasting resorces making this trip, I'll try to at least make it useful from an educational standpoint. Its a good excuse anyhow for getting a good suntan and escaping 20 below temps for a week.
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Anyhow, I'll try to report in a few times when I am not basking in the sun on probably my last Great Adventure outside the Last Great Frontier. Of course, you can all get on my case for being a big hypocrite here and being a profligate consumer of Jet Fuel and living like a Pigman while children in India are starving, but this is the society I grew up in and I do in fact have money enough to do this sort of thing periodically. Actually, since its work related, it doesn't cost me anything.
I'm going to study a few things during the Hawaii trip. One would be an estimation of survivability for the current population there. Also I'm going to try to get a look at Kilauea, which is erupting at the moment along with a good portion of the other volcanoes on Earth.
The biggest leap for me is leaving my preps behind. Paranoid Doomer that I am, it worries me that JUST when I head for Hawaii, Martial Law gets declared and I am STUCK in Honolulu with NO PREPS! I am going to pack a few freeze dried foods just in case
Hawaii is the only state I really haven't seen much of, though I flew a few times through there on the way to Australia in my younger days. I saw all the US states while driving the Big Rig, in fact I drove every mile of all the Interstate highways during those years. Also covered most of Canada. My main visuaizations of Hawaii come from the film about its discovery and the subsequent Christian Mision to save the islanders from their Heathen Ways based o the James Michener novel. In my romantic mind of course,I was appalled by the disruption of that society by the Christians of the day. Wouldn't it have been nice if the Hawaiians had just been left ALONE there? They were doing just fine I think before we got there. Fishing the waters in dugout canoes, it seems in my mind just perfect.
Hawaii of course took a major role in WWII, that of course is where the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor, and I'll go visit that site as well. The big War for Oil that we won, basically turning the rest of the world into a slave state in the aftermath, and providing a couple of generations of Ameicans a very comfortable living, until of course the Oil started running thin in our on country and we had to go in debt to keep the lifestyle and expectations up.
Even on Vacation, I can't get away from the Doom. Since I am profligatley wasting resorces making this trip, I'll try to at least make it useful from an educational standpoint. Its a good excuse anyhow for getting a good suntan and escaping 20 below temps for a week.
Reverse Engineer
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Re: Hawaii
by Arsenal » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 09:56:37
Have fun!!
Maybe you should forward me your address so I can "protect" your preps just in case TSHTF.
Just kidding.
Make sure to lock everything in the trunk of your rental if you happen to leave the car to go to the beach. We had everything stolen for us on the second day when someone put a filed down bolt in the lock and used a breaker bar to pop the lock. We were boogie boarding not more than a 100ft away.
Maybe you should forward me your address so I can "protect" your preps just in case TSHTF.
Just kidding.
Make sure to lock everything in the trunk of your rental if you happen to leave the car to go to the beach. We had everything stolen for us on the second day when someone put a filed down bolt in the lock and used a breaker bar to pop the lock. We were boogie boarding not more than a 100ft away.
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Re: Hawaii
by frankthetank » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 10:01:30
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HUGE warmup coming to Alaska... bad timing Direct flight or are you connecting in Seattle? My sister was in Maui last winter. They liked it, but the flight was annoying because it is a long haul from here (10 hrs or so). Cancun/Cozumel is only 4hr... Travel while you still can.
HUGE warmup coming to Alaska... bad timing
Direct flight or are you connecting in Seattle? My sister was in Maui last winter. They liked it, but the flight was annoying because it is a long haul from here (10 hrs or so). Cancun/Cozumel is only 4hr... Travel while you still can.lawns should be outlawed.
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Re: Hawaii
by Plantagenet » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 15:07:10
Have a great trip, Reverse.
I was just in Hawaii over the holidays.....Anchorage to Maui and some whale-watching and snorkelling at Molokini then the superferry to Oahu for surfing at Waikiki then small plane to Molokai to do some sea kayaking and the hike to Kaluapapa, then the small foot ferry back to Lahaina on Maui. The temps in central Alaska went to -60 while I was on Molokai.
My recommendations for the big Island would be to first offer a small sacrificial bottle of gin to Pele at Kiluaea, then go to the coast and watch the active lava flows, and then don't miss the snorkelling at the Captain Cook monument and at Hapuna. ---ENJOY!
I was just in Hawaii over the holidays.....Anchorage to Maui and some whale-watching and snorkelling at Molokini then the superferry to Oahu for surfing at Waikiki then small plane to Molokai to do some sea kayaking and the hike to Kaluapapa, then the small foot ferry back to Lahaina on Maui. The temps in central Alaska went to -60 while I was on Molokai.
My recommendations for the big Island would be to first offer a small sacrificial bottle of gin to Pele at Kiluaea, then go to the coast and watch the active lava flows, and then don't miss the snorkelling at the Captain Cook monument and at Hapuna. ---ENJOY!
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Re: Hawaii
by WildRose » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 20:18:02
Have a good trip! I've always wanted to see Hawaii. The hubby and I plan to take the kids there for a holiday before it isn't possible anymore. I was just reading a nice pictorial article about it yesterday in the orthodontist's office (reading and drooling).
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Re: Hawaii
by Pretorian » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 20:28:02
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'i')t worries me that JUST when I head for Hawaii, Martial Law gets declared and I am STUCK in Honolulu with NO PREPS! I am going to pack a few freeze dried foods just in case
Just make sure you have your gun and rifle at check in, and you'll be fine.
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Re: Hawaii
by Narz » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 21:01:36
Have fun.
Spending the winter in New England for the first time in three years (last two in California) really makes me miss the year round farmers markets.
Alot of people are worried about long term global warming but having a year round growing season & not having to spend tons of energy heating goes a long way. Besides climate change is also causing more ice storms & the tropics will be effected least AFAIK.
Spending the winter in New England for the first time in three years (last two in California) really makes me miss the year round farmers markets.
Alot of people are worried about long term global warming but having a year round growing season & not having to spend tons of energy heating goes a long way. Besides climate change is also causing more ice storms & the tropics will be effected least AFAIK.
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Re: Hawaii
by Narz » Thu 08 Jan 2009, 21:03:18
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', ' ')Paranoid Doomer that I am, it worries me that JUST when I head for Hawaii, Martial Law gets declared and I am STUCK in Honolulu with NO PREPS! I am going to pack a few freeze dried foods just in case
Or you could just eat coconuts.
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