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Peak Oil Doom is a lie
Re: Peak Oil Doom is a lie
by outcast » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 00:00:52
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eak Oil Doom is a lie And it's not fun anymore...
You've just now figured that out? Well, better late than never.
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Re: Peak Oil Doom is a lie
by Aaron » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 12:24:07
Any solution which does not include the majority, is really no solution at all.
The unprepared will visit their misery upon you.
Advocate, educate, participate.
There are no local solutions for global problems... only mitigating strategies for rugged individuals.
\Your dog wants tactical supremacy.
Help me Obi-Won Kenobi... you're our only hope.
The unprepared will visit their misery upon you.
Advocate, educate, participate.
There are no local solutions for global problems... only mitigating strategies for rugged individuals.
\Your dog wants tactical supremacy.
Help me Obi-Won Kenobi... you're our only hope.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.
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Re: Peak Oil Doom is a lie
by Narz » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 14:51:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'D')oomerism, is just a hardon for meaning. That these people haven't suffered for no reason. It is a sickness.
I agree but most everything is just a hardon for meaning.
And least most everything beyond basic survival (which most 1st worlders pretty have under control).
This thread has been entertaining, thanks for starting it bodinagamin & I understand your struggle.
ALot of my attachment to doomerism is that I admit, I do want to see the destrcuction of society as it exists today happen.
I can admit it. Guys like niknak perhaps never will, they want to feel special.
I'm addicted to the Net, I see a lot of fundys and they all remind me of each other whether there bag is veganism (or it's opposite), Christianity (or atheism), libertarianism, doomerism, Catton fever, whatever.
Everyone's-gonna-die-but-me doomerism has an added psychological benefit though - the doomer will get to live to see those who don't believe as he (and it's almost always a he) does suffer & die and gets to feel vindicated.
The world is in deep trouble. Most people on other forums (and in real life) think I'm a doomer. But on this site I'm the definition of cornicopian. I think peak oil will bring beneficial consequences to mankind. If not for peak oil we might really destroy the Earth before we learned.
Maybe peak oil WON'T bring beneficial consequences, maybe global warming will kill 90% of us. Maybe the dieoff will begin next year as paradoxical doomer/laxidasicalman PMS states it will. I wouldn't put money on it though.
The people you blame for your problems aren't going to go poof in the night. Look within, not to rancid bags of rice in some moldy basement, for comfort.
We're all going to die. As much as JohnDenver seems to enjoy being a troll there's a grain (or 100-lb bag of Apocolypse chow if you prefer) of truth to what he's saying.
Like Aaron says, thinking you can hide away until all the things you're afraid of have vanished is little-boyish. We all want to crawl back into the womb/bunker at times but it's not happening so man up & face what's coming, not hiding in your room clutching your weapon (realized how that sounds
) but out in your community wide open to what comes. 
“Seek simplicity but distrust it”
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Re: Peak Oil Doom is a lie
by Pops » Wed 31 Dec 2008, 15:35:47
I was once an adolescent boy who coveted what the blue-hairs had and fantasized about the Slate-Wiper so I could have their stuff without much work.
After some years of work and becoming a graybeard with adolescent grandkids myself, I think about what I can do to maximize their chances.
I'd argue micro effort (call it prepping if you like) does affect the macro as well as the micro if it is in the right direction. Fewer children, less consumption, more self-reliance, etc make one more viable individually but also society as a whole.
Don't think solely about your stockpile, think about your lifestyle.
After some years of work and becoming a graybeard with adolescent grandkids myself, I think about what I can do to maximize their chances.
I'd argue micro effort (call it prepping if you like) does affect the macro as well as the micro if it is in the right direction. Fewer children, less consumption, more self-reliance, etc make one more viable individually but also society as a whole.
Don't think solely about your stockpile, think about your lifestyle.
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
-- Abraham Lincoln, Fragment on Government (July 1, 1854)
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