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THE Homeless Hooverville Tent City Thread (merged)

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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby Novus » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 16:57:29

Here is another Hooverville popping up. They say poor Americans figure they are just disgraced millionaires. This guy fits the bill to a tee.

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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby alecifel » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 17:08:52

The most absurd part of that video, is look at the objects they decided to take with them. The lawn around the thing is so littered with consumerist garbage, from a Faux Venus to the fireplace that now serves no function. There's probably a salad shooter taking up space in the pantry.

I lived for almost 2 years in a travel trailer half that size when I started homesteading my property, and never wasted an inch on trash like that. Kunstler would have a field day with these people.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby lawnchair » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 17:17:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alecifel', 'T')he most absurd part of that video, is look at the objects they decided to take with them. The lawn around the thing is so littered with consumerist garbage, from a Faux Venus to the fireplace that now serves no function.


The cargo cult is strong with these people.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby xarkz » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 17:25:47

isnt this just back to normal for many.. or where did they live before they got a subprime loan..
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby Novus » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 17:26:27

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alecifel', 'T')he most absurd part of that video, is look at the objects they decided to take with them. The lawn around the thing is so littered with consumerist garbage, from a Faux Venus to the fireplace that now serves no function. There's probably a salad shooter taking up space in the pantry.


That is what is so funny about that video. It is almost a joke like it could have been an episode from the Simpsons. It is too absurd to be real but it is.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby Novus » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 17:31:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('xarkz', 'i')snt this just back to normal for many.. or where did they live before they got a subprime loan..


The guy in the CNN video was not subprime. He was solidly middle class or even upper middle in his lifestyle but he was leveraged to the hilt with consumerism. The crisis in not just subprime and that is why the sky IS falling.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby lawnchair » Mon 17 Mar 2008, 18:44:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('xarkz', 'i')snt this just back to normal for many.. or where did they live before they got a subprime loan..


There are about 3 million more Californians (and 23 million more Americans) than there were in 2000, so the apartments and ghetto homes they came from are generally occupied, too.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby cube » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 04:03:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('alecifel', 'T')he most absurd part of that video, is look at the objects they decided to take with them. The lawn around the thing is so littered with consumerist garbage, from a Faux Venus to the fireplace that now serves no function. There's probably a salad shooter taking up space in the pantry.


That is what is so funny about that video. It is almost a joke like it could have been an episode from the Simpsons. It is too absurd to be real but it is.
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As the video states, their home doubled in value and they were sitting on a mountain of equity. But yet despite this they still managed to screw things up. IMHO (with or without) a housing crash, completely clueless people like these folks would of ended up in a trailer anyways.
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Re: The new Hoovervilles

Unread postby 3rensho » Tue 18 Mar 2008, 12:39:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('xarkz', 'i')snt this just back to normal for many.. or where did they live before they got a subprime loan..


The guy in the CNN video was not subprime.


He took out an interest only mortgage, then after his wife lost her job he took out a loan on the "equity" in the house. He is exactly what the sub-prime crisis is all about.

No way in hell would he have been able to do that had he been required to meet the bare minimums required under sane lending practices. That does not absolve him from his stupidity but it certainly does illustrate the types of mortgages the sub-prime crises entails.
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Hooverville

Unread postby ohanian » Mon 27 Oct 2008, 04:35:19

You mean like Hooverville

The city of vacuum cleaners. Sucked dry.
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The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby MonteQuest » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:27:28

In Ontario, California, nestled between railroad tracks and the roar of departing planes lies "tent city." Talk about being on the ‘wrong side of the tracks.’ The camp sprang up in July 2007 with 20 residents and quickly rose to over 400. On March 24, 2008 the residents of this “Bushville,” were evicted and their possessions bulldozed.

And how they were moved off this land is quite telling. First came the edict declaring the Bushville off-limits to minors. Then came the announcement that no pets were allowed. For many camp-dwellers, their dogs were the only family they had. The city started segregating residents by assigning different-colored armbands. Homeless people, getting kicked out of a homeless camp.

Homeless advocacy groups and city agencies are reporting the most visible rise in homeless encampments since the Hooverville shanty towns of the Great Depression. In response to soaring numbers of home foreclosures, the credit crisis, and rising unemployment, tent cities or shanty towns are springing up all across America. Food banks are overwhelmed. A video is worth a thousand words.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmeHiFZUWtE
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:35:20

... and that was from a year ago!! Imagine what it'll be like in another year! 8O
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:37:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MonteQuest', 'A')nd how they were moved off this land is quite telling. First came the edict declaring the Bushville off-limits to minors. Then came the announcement that no pets were allowed. For many camp-dwellers, their dogs were the only family they had. The city started segregating residents by assigning different-colored armbands. Homeless people, getting kicked out of a homeless camp.

So after getting kicked out, where did they go?
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby Revi » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:37:40

It looks like Somalia.

I remember something like it on the US/Mexico border around Terlingua, Texas. The refugees weren't Mexicans. They were mostly Americans down on their luck.

We are really in trouble now.
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:40:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Revi', 'W')e are really in trouble now.

Does this mean we can officially declare that TSHTF?
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby SchroedingersCat » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 20:48:40

From sea to shining sea...

Try Googling "tent city".

Seattle/Kirkland
SF Bay area
Nashville
Fresno
Merced
Tampa
Waterbury, CT
Athens, GA
Santa Barbara, CA has parking lots reserved at night for people living in cars.

I believe this is what Kunstler meant about "making other arrangements."
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby Jotapay » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 21:00:17

I'll let people camp in my front yard for $5/night. :) There must be at least a dozen nice spots out there.
I like Monte's posts too.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'D')oes this mean we can officially declare that TSHTF?

Until you have to take the heavy hardware out out of the safe, I don't think so.
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby cube » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 21:17:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('SchroedingersCat', '.').. I believe this is what Kunstler meant about "making other arrangements."

Kunstler has always been an advocate of a *high-density* living arrangement.
However I don't think this is what he meant by "New Urbanism". :lol: :lol:
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby eastbay » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 21:38:32

This is exactly the kind of clearly peak oil related discussions I like to have here! The sneak preview we see in this video of what will be 'normal' in the near future clearly demonstrate the coming widespread slide up close and personal.

I feel sad for those who have been selected to show others what it'll be like in the post peak First World when deep poverty will be considered typical living.
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Re: The Return of Hoovervilles

Unread postby MonteQuest » Fri 19 Dec 2008, 22:02:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', ' ')So after getting kicked out, where did they go?


A few residents were relocated to a lot across the street to allow for "improvements." According to reports I've read, when people asked where they were supposed to go, the city told the people to go back to their home cities, and even offered them free rides.

One of those kicked out:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I') AM A VICTIM OF THOSE WHO WERE KICKED OUT OF TENT CITY, IF I RENTED A HOUSE FOR 1 MO. I WOULD BE A ONTARIO RESIDENT, BUT I ONLY LIVED IN TENT CITY FOR ALMOST 8 MOS. BUT PAID NO RENT SO I AM NOT ! GO FIGURE. MY HUSBAND OF 35 YEARS DIED, I WAS HOMELESS, I HAD A MOTORHOME, WITH MY DOGS, NOW I AM ON THE STREETS OF ONTARIO, W/DOGS, NO MOTORHOME, ABOUT 20 OR MORE TICKETS, FOR CAMPING ON THE STREETS, COOKING AT THE PARK, ARRESTED SEVERAL TIMES FOR BEING ON THE OUTSIDE OF TENT CITIES GATES, GETTING FOOD, BEING HUNGRY, I THOUGHT I HAD A BIT OF A CHANCE TO TRY TO GET ON MY FEET,BUT ON THE STREETS, SLIM CHANCE OF EVEN SURVIVING. GOD BLESS ONTARIO, ONE MORE THING, OFFICER WILKENS, ONT. P.D. FINEST WOULD'NT GIVE ME A FEW MORE DAYS THERE, HE SAID AND I QUOTE, " AFTER YOU M_____ F______ US ", I ASKED " HOW DID I DO THAT ? HE SAID, QUOTE, " BY TALKING TO THE MEDIA AND THE NEWSPAPER," I SAID " BY TELLING THE TRUTH, HOW DO YOU KICK A HOMELESS PERSON, OUT OF A HOMELESS CAMP ?
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