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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby davep » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 17:30:45

The original doomer (for an English audience)

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Quinny » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 17:34:04

What about Victor
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 18:50:32

I have been characterized so many different ways by different folks here on PO.com, I wonder which archetype I am seen as?

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Quinny » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 19:06:59

Ludi its obvious - the kitten on the keyboard.
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Ludi » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 20:45:57

:P

My husband suggested these two:

Me (The Feral Kid from "The Road Warrior" ):

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(I wish I were really that tough!)



My husband (Wallace of "Wallace and Gromit"):
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Which reminds me, we need more of these:

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 21:13:01

Forgot this one for the ladies or a role model for our daughters:

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One more that applies to a lot here:

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 21:17:56

Ludi, this is how I imagine you were in high school. Ally Sheedy in the Breakfast Club:

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As a superhero, Violet from the Incredibles:

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby bodigami » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 21:26:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '(')...)
Which reminds me, we need more of these:

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No, he was still operating under the sickening and parasitic industrial civilization.

We need more people that can:
produce there own food,
practice meditation under trees,
give back something useful to the community,
and are wise enough to build up on what makes humans lives more noble.
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 06:33:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') have been characterized so many different ways by different folks here on PO.com, I wonder which archetype I am seen as?

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Perhaps a "Mutt"?

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')reeds of cur are usually not recognized by major show registries, so selection for certain looks has not been a factor in their development. They were selected mainly for hunting ability, although some breeds of cur are also known for herding ability. As a result, in most of the cur breeds the appearance standard is extremely flexible, enough so that a complete breed appearance standard is difficult to create. The resultant diversity in appearance and selection for physical ability result in breeds that tend to be genetically sound and healthy.


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The dogmatics are purebreds, each suffering from their own particular weakness due to intellectual in-breeding. If you cling too much to one standard, a look in the case of dogs or an intellectual paradigm/orthodoxy in the case of people you merely compound the weaknesses because you do not go outside of a pre-determined resource pool.

This is not to say that one should not have a purpose, in either breeding dogs or pursuing ideas and knowledge, only that one should make sure that what they are pursuing is what they want. A grand theory of everything, a comforting orthodoxy (whatever its content) or "a look," these will lead to weakness and a sense of "perfection" that may look good in a dog show but is unable to do the job when the job is not orchestrated by the kennel club.

One can look like a eclectic and be just that; but if those who care about standards and breeding and looks dismiss you because they do not what to call you, this may be a sign that you are on the right path, because the task before us is a pragmatic one and it requires those whose intellectual life is truly pragmatic and pragmaticism requires diversity of thought, tactics, and even world view. The dog show judges do not value pragmatic skills; only that one look the part.

Those who judge the dog show do not know what to call the cur so they dismiss it... which is for the best. for if the cur ever let them get a hold of it, the breed would quickly become useless... because then it would be required to look like their view of what a cur should look like.

Purebreds are for dog shows.

Curs are for work.
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby dinopello » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 07:11:03

Seems like a humourless group so far (except for the kitteh's)

What about the class clowns?

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Quagmire » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 10:02:12

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Not many feminine PO archtypes yet...
How about:

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And of course:
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 11:06:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quagmire', '.')
Not many feminine PO archtypes yet...
How about:
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I had a teacher in high school who claimed to know Raquel Tejada before she became Raquel Welsh. She told us that Raquel had a boob job and used to be flat chested. True? I don't know but that's what the teacher said. Anyway, nice legs. That and her face are a woman's finest features, physically speaking. That little curve at the top of her left leg . . .

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 11:59:34

The Furkini should definitely return as an item of fashion in the Peak Oil Future of Doom!

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(Sadly, my furkini days are probably over...)
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby RedStateGreen » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 12:24:20

I always liked this one:

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 12:54:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'T')he Furkini should definitely return as an item of fashion in the Peak Oil Future of Doom!

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(Sadly, my furkini days are probably over...)
On the internet you are always in your furkini days, sweatheart. BTW, I forgot to mention hair. A woman's hair is right at the top of the list.
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby bodigami » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 13:26:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'I') have been characterized so many different ways by different folks here on PO.com, I wonder which archetype I am seen as?

8O


Perhaps a "Mutt"?

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')reeds of cur are usually not recognized by major show registries, so selection for certain looks has not been a factor in their development. They were selected mainly for hunting ability, although some breeds of cur are also known for herding ability. As a result, in most of the cur breeds the appearance standard is extremely flexible, enough so that a complete breed appearance standard is difficult to create. The resultant diversity in appearance and selection for physical ability result in breeds that tend to be genetically sound and healthy.


Cur Wiki

The dogmatics are purebreds, each suffering from their own particular weakness due to intellectual in-breeding. If you cling too much to one standard, a look in the case of dogs or an intellectual paradigm/orthodoxy in the case of people you merely compound the weaknesses because you do not go outside of a pre-determined resource pool.

This is not to say that one should not have a purpose, in either breeding dogs or pursuing ideas and knowledge, only that one should make sure that what they are pursuing is what they want. A grand theory of everything, a comforting orthodoxy (whatever its content) or "a look," these will lead to weakness and a sense of "perfection" that may look good in a dog show but is unable to do the job when the job is not orchestrated by the kennel club.

One can look like a eclectic and be just that; but if those who care about standards and breeding and looks dismiss you because they do not what to call you, this may be a sign that you are on the right path, because the task before us is a pragmatic one and it requires those whose intellectual life is truly pragmatic and pragmaticism requires diversity of thought, tactics, and even world view. The dog show judges do not value pragmatic skills; only that one look the part.

Those who judge the dog show do not know what to call the cur so they dismiss it... which is for the best. for if the cur ever let them get a hold of it, the breed would quickly become useless... because then it would be required to look like their view of what a cur should look like.

Purebreds are for dog shows.

Curs are for work.
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My apologies to all of the working breeds for my vast over-simplification of the dog show world for the sake of making a point. Any breed bred for what they do rather than what they look like should consider themselves honorary curs. :)


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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Ludi » Fri 12 Dec 2008, 13:38:03

I like that Cur Philosophy. :) it fits in with my myriadism.
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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Mon 15 Dec 2008, 05:54:55

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In Jainism, the religion closest to Buddhism, you may concur with Anekantvada (plurality of views)... which I adopted =)


I probably would not go so far with the idea but I understand why other do.

I merely try to remember that each "answer" I claim to have comes from the asking of a very specific question and that the farther we move away from that original question the more scrutiny our previous answer needs.

So, for example, some of my outlooks and skills that I have termed "hillbilly" in the past are cultural responses to specific set of situations. Situations which will recur and may very soon. When faced with a certain set of questions, "What can we eat when there is nothing to buy?" or how can I get that machine to work when I do not have access to the right tools or parts?" I can draw on the hillbilly line of thought.

If, however, I am asking another kind of question, "How should I interact with this person who is different than me?" or "How do I make a decision on this complex issue of public policy?" Then I might fall back on a different set of skills, a different set of answers that I have learned from asking very different questions.

Or to just put it simply, one does not use a screw driver to hammer a nail or a hammer to cut a 2 x 4 or a saw to measure a doorway. Archetypes are overly simplistic, making it appear as if every problem has the same answer. They are the man who only has a hammer so each problem looks like a nail.

It may make good movies or entertainment but as a way to navigate the real world it is wholly and completely inadequate. The problem with the internet is that people are not required to actually do anything, just talk. And it is easier to talk in archetypes than it is to accomplish anything arche-typically.

It is hard for me to promote this sense of pragmaticism to any level higher than the reality of getting things done here on earth. I dogmatically avoid discussing my own faith commitments here because I believe that this medium makes meaningful conversations of faith and the divine even more difficult than issues which are subject to some level of observation, study, statistical evaluation and objective scrutiny (i.e. like peak oil). They are, if you will, very different kinds of questions which require and are subject to very different kinds of criteria of verification/falsification not to mention different logics.

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 18 Dec 2008, 19:45:59

I forgot one. Here's MonteQuest's archetype.

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Re: PeakOil.Com contributor archtypes

Unread postby Quagmire » Thu 18 Dec 2008, 22:38:40

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I guess children have PO archetypes too, whether they know it or not.
Some will be resilient and able to deal with more than we can imagine at this point.

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