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Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby shoblever » Wed 17 Dec 2008, 18:49:02

Well, 'Ol W said "there can be no debate on whether he kept America safe" So in our everlasting need of correction of this man, who is always wrong, we are going to have something that he said could not happen., Here it is
A debate on wether he kept America safe.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ARLISLE, Pa. – President George W. Bush, ever focused on his legacy, said Wednesday "there can be no debate" about his record of preventing another terrorist attack. Evoking _-__memories of Sept. 11, 2001, Bush said virtually no one could have predicted back then that ...

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"While there's room for an honest and healthy debate about the decisions I made — and there's plenty of debate — there can be no debate about the results in keeping America safe," Bush said.


So, pro's and cons, I think if you don't send your contractors to wipe out a village, can you take credit for keeping it safe in IraQ?
How about america?

OK here is a link that was just a short quote:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081217/ap_on_go_pr_wh/bush

the link will disappear later though I would copy this one to yopur computer.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby shoblever » Wed 17 Dec 2008, 21:33:10

I think he kept America less safe.

Remember, 911 happened on his shift and so did Katrina.

America was actually safer before Busch because we had not had 911 or Katrina.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby Jotapay » Wed 17 Dec 2008, 21:44:10

For the love of God, don't get me started about this. Bush's whole administration was a lie. If I start posting all the times they were caught lying, convicted of a crime, or forced to leave their positions due to shame/ethics violations/convictions, I'd exceed the bandwidth allowed on this server. To this day, Cheney STILL talks about Al-Quaida and WMD in Iraq before 9/11, which they were not.

And to be fair, I honestly really liked Bush when he was governor of Texas. I think he was a terrific governor. He did some things here that I really like and virtually all Texans still appreciate him for. But he abandoned his version of "compassionate conservatism" that he practiced here in Texas a few months after he went to Washington though, and pretty much gave the corporate/banking interests free run of the country.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Thu 18 Dec 2008, 02:02:20

Do we really need to debate this? If a politician says something, just assume the opposite is true and you will generally pretty close. George Bush was Osama's most glorious wet dream come true. He personified that arrogance, brutality, and narrow mindedness that groups like Al Queda have always accused us of. We have become every malign hyperbolic stereotype Al Queda ever accused us of.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby aldente » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 20:14:59

Keeping America safe of what exactly? - the future??

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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby Denny » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 20:33:32

"Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."
-- Aug. 5, 2004
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 21:06:13

I'm so sick of this that I have to say Yay Bush Hoo Rah! He's gone in 4 weeks. Then you can sink your claws into Obama.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Sat 20 Dec 2008, 21:18:27

George Bush was a fine leader and a patriot. A lot of people are just jealous. They nitpick him because he is not a great speech giver. Not all great men are comfortable speaking in front of millions. I doubt Ghandi would have done any better. The antagonism on this site towards this man is nothing less than shameful, but what can you expect from a site full of lunatic terrorists.

I for one, would like to thank George Bush for his service to our country and will miss him when he is gone.

God Bless you George Bush, I for one will miss you and appreciate how you have made our country safer.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby aldente » Thu 25 Dec 2008, 22:11:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Denny', '"')Our enemies are innovative and resourceful, and so are we. They never stop thinking about new ways to harm our country and our people, and neither do we."- Aug. 5, 2004

You're off track. The enemy is within, never outside! It is a mere projection at best.

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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby nicknick » Thu 25 Dec 2008, 23:55:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'G')eorge Bush was a fine leader and a patriot. A lot of people are just jealous. They nitpick him because he is not a great speech giver. Not all great men are comfortable speaking in front of millions. I doubt Ghandi would have done any better.The antagonism on this site towards this man is nothing less than shameful, but what can you expect from a site full of lunatic terrorists.
I for one, would like to thank George Bush for his service to our country and will miss him when he is gone.
God Bless you George Bush, I for one will miss you and appreciate how you have made our country safer.

You are talking about the man who admitted watching on TV the plane hit the tower at the school before any plane was ever broadcast on the air.
ooops.

Same guy?

I am sure the hundreds of thousands of children who died would give him a hug if they had arms.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby aldente » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 00:24:54

nicknick, you're off track. Politics are something else, For the purpose of disguise a "clowne" had to be around. Hence G.W. was nothing but a victim more or less conveniently put in place.

Look at us for instance, we are able to reason, to react and to think, a luxury that the poor fellow of discussion here did not have a chance ever.

To be a Peak Oiler is not necessarily always a bad thing, or do you not feel to be ahead of the game?


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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 10:56:19

:( With presidencys there is a time lag between cause and effect much like turning the rudder on a supertanker. Things will happen two years from now that are more a result of the Bush administration actions than the Obama administration. Looking at the beginning of Bushes term its clear they hadn't been in office long enough to cause 911 which was an attack on out financial center.
Sadly the responce was to play 'wack-a-mole with terrorist in the mountains around the Kiber pass and settle some old scores in Irag while letting the financial system rot itself out from the inside. This failure to police our markets has or soon will hand the terrorists a victory in line with their wildest dreams.
It will be four to ten years before we can see the true extent of Bushes failures or successes but at this point its not looking good.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby Serial_Worrier » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 17:29:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ':')( With presidencys there is a time lag between cause and effect much like turning the rudder on a supertanker. Things will happen two years from now that are more a result of the Bush administration actions than the Obama administration. Looking at the beginning of Bushes term its clear they hadn't been in office long enough to cause 911 which was an attack on out financial center.
Sadly the responce was to play 'wack-a-mole with terrorist in the mountains around the Kiber pass and settle some old scores in Irag while letting the financial system rot itself out from the inside. This failure to police our markets has or soon will hand the terrorists a victory in line with their wildest dreams.
It will be four to ten years before we can see the true extent of Bushes failures or successes but at this point its not looking good.


By that logic, 9/11 is 100% Clinton's fault and the 1993 WTC bombings are Bush Sr.'s fault.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Fri 26 Dec 2008, 19:26:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Serial_Worrier', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ':')( With presidencys there is a time lag between cause and effect much like turning the rudder on a supertanker. Things will happen two years from now that are more a result of the Bush administration actions than the Obama administration. Looking at the beginning of Bushes term its clear they hadn't been in office long enough to cause 911 which was an attack on out financial center.
Sadly the responce was to play 'wack-a-mole with terrorist in the mountains around the Kiber pass and settle some old scores in Irag while letting the financial system rot itself out from the inside. This failure to police our markets has or soon will hand the terrorists a victory in line with their wildest dreams.
It will be four to ten years before we can see the true extent of Bushes failures or successes but at this point its not looking good.
By that logic, 9/11 is 100% Clinton's fault and the 1993 WTC bombings are Bush Sr.'s fault.

Ayup, pretty much.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby Plantagenet » Sun 28 Dec 2008, 23:05:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', ' ')Things will happen two years from now that are more a result of the Bush administration actions than the Obama administration.

Obama is studying the government and he promises to make policy changes and have his own people in control as soon as he takes office. We've already had a democratic congress for two years, so the transition there to democratic budgets etc. has already taken place two years ago. :-D
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby niknak » Mon 29 Dec 2008, 00:14:52

As long as there was a nice expensive war going on, they didn't have to worry about hving more events over here. When they start withdrawing you will notice other places beginning to heat up

wha!
Hey!

lookit that, wouoldja!

Obama gets elected, and theagent shills are firing rockets back into izrael and india is about to blow up...

Now if you were starting a false flag, wouldn't you place the rockets in populated areas too?

too obvious.


Oh, and didn't they say When Obam gets in he will have an international crises to deal with...

Now HOW did they know?

Easy if you are in charge of starting them.

Ira is tuning down, so gotta tune upn the others .

there will always be war, the military industrial complex will see to it that there is always a use for their garbage.
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Re: Debate on wether he kept america safe

Unread postby Plantagenet » Mon 29 Dec 2008, 01:58:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('niknak', '
')Oh, and didn't they say When Obam gets in he will have an international crises to deal with...

Now HOW did they know?

Easy if you are in charge of starting them.


"They" didn't say that. It was Joe Biden, Obama's VP who said that Obama will be quickly tested by one or more international crises.

Joe Biden is not "in charge" of starting the crises in India and Gaza just because he predicted such crises would occur.... given Obama's lack of experience with international matters and with governing, its pretty obvious he's going to be tested by the leaders of other countries to see how he responds to threats and crises. 8)
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