by GoghGoner » Thu 11 Dec 2008, 11:32:57
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('angrybill', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GoghGoner', 'I')nstead of being wishy-washy, give a definite behavior and judge whether most people would be considered good or evil.
For example, if some stranger was walking towards a cliff and you knew that they may fall off it, plummeting to their gruesome death, without a warning. What you do? What would 99.9% of the world's population do? They would say, "hey dude, you are walking towards a cliff." Maybe they would say it in another language and maybe with different words but they would give that person a warning. Is that the moral thing to do?
Sure. People are inherently good. Are humans smarter than yeast? Now, that is a more difficult question...
I don't mean this in a demeaning way but have you spend time in other countries? The 99.9% probability I think is way too high for anything really except that 99.9% of people need to breathe air, eat or eventually die. Differing people and there cultural raisings make a big difference in how well they respond, positively or negatively to warning someone about walking over a cliff. And, would they believe you and stop and just keep walking because they were though to be heading in the right direction. There is spiritual relevance to this too. I'm just saying.
Sure, I have traveled extensively in Asia, the Middle East, Texas, Central America, Los Angeles, Salem, and Alaska.
I cannot imagine what would lead you to think that there is a country of people without this basic evolutionary trait of being inherently good. What country is that?
by wisconsin_cur » Sat 13 Dec 2008, 04:19:34
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('POAlex', 'Y')ou don't have to teach a child to misbehave, they just do it. We're definitely born with a sinful nature.
"Man that is born of a woman is of few days and full of trouble." (Job 14:1)
A toddler's misbehavior = sin = evil ?
Seems a little simplistic.
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by PenultimateManStanding » Sat 13 Dec 2008, 23:39:05
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') do not know if people are good or evil, but I am angry at Bill.
How come?
Probably because he lost a lot of money. I'd be mad at me too. Losing a lot of money has got to suck.
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by vision-master » Sat 13 Dec 2008, 23:48:07
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') do not know if people are good or evil, but I am angry at Bill.
How come?
Probably because he lost a lot of money. I'd be mad at me too. Losing a lot of money has got to suck.
Especially if you think your one of the 'players'.
by threadbear » Sun 14 Dec 2008, 00:21:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') do not know if people are good or evil, but I am angry at Bill.
How come?
Probably because he lost a lot of money. I'd be mad at me too. Losing a lot of money has got to suck.
It's just money. As long as a person has their health, family, friends, they can recover, or partially recover monetary loss. It's the reversal of expectation that is so difficult. When I was a kid, I flew through the first 8 grades, first in my class, hardly having to study. Midway through high school, I was hit with a neurological illness that destroyed my short term memory, impairing my ability to learn anything that was completely novel. I had become a complete loser, in some people's eyes. I am SO glad I went through it when I was young and resilient. It's a hell of thing to go through a reversal like that when you're older.
Back to good and evil....Back in those days, I could be mean, really mean, because I was very angry and very scared, not to mention depressed out of my mind. I didn't know what had happened, didn't have a lot of insight into it and was constantly criticized for being lazy and or a drug addict (I wasn't) The worst insults to deal with are the things you tell yourself about yourself, without any external inputs. The "i'm no good", like a mantra, over and over.
When you're older it's more, "If only I'd done xyz", "why didn't I see it coming?" etc..etc..
We all have to be kind to others right now, but especially, we have to be forgiving of ourselves. We're going to need all the compassion we can muster in the coming years. I think we should never miss an opportunity to cheer someone up, lighten their burden.
Best wishes to Mr. Bill.
by MrBill » Mon 15 Dec 2008, 03:31:35
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', 'I') do not know if people are good or evil, but I am angry at Bill.
How come?
na, just because his moniker is AngryBill...
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