[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zero-point', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'R')edStateGreen: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roblem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pup55', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'o')ur children shall live, unawares, in a society of tightly controlled access to everything we hold dear

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Armageddon', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zero-point', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'R')edStateGreen: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roblem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.

[virgincrude]

For those who see the current chaos as heralding the de facto end of all ambitions towards global governance, here's some stuff written by those who have been keeping an eye on things for longer than most of us:

The August Review

This guy focusses on the Trilateral Commission, a sister to the better known Council on Foreign Relations, others focus on 'illuminati' or the Bilderbergers. They are ALL related, and ALL work towards the same goal: One World Government. The August Review is thankfully largely free of the Alex Jones style which gives the 'conspiracy theorists' such a bad name.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he economic chaos in the world today is a direct result of policies set in motion to foster a New International Economic Order (NIEO). The NIEO was the explicit creation of the Trilateral Commission, founded by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1973, and their early papers and task force reports clearly asserted their NIEO plans.

Members of the Trilateral Commission were instrumental in creating the European Union as well. The EU is the prototype of global governance that will soon exert its influence to reshuffle world relationships.

Since 1973, Trilateralists have dominated the Executive Branch of the U.S. government with politicians like Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Dick Cheney. This has led to domination of the world trade mechanisms like the World Bank and negotiation of free trade agreements.

Six out of eight presidents of the World Bank have been members of the Commission. Eight out of ten of the U.S. Trade Representatives (USTR) have been Commissioners.

Indeed, the Trilateral Commission has had undue influence and control over the development of globalization, and it was self-interested at best.
With today's total meltdown in economic and global financial markets, one must ask, "Are these people just plain stupid?"

The answer has to be "No", considering their great success at consistently dominating political and economic processes over a span of thirty-five years.

So what else is going on?
There is mounting evidence that there has been a larger plan underway to corner the global supply of gold, thus laying the groundwork for a global currency exclusively controlled by Trilaterals and their friends. By extension, economic and political mechanisms would be controlled to the same extent.

[virgincrude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents are happening too fast for One World Government to survive. The speed of events will multiply 20x's within the next 2 to 3 years. What took 20 years of changes in the 60's will take place in a matter of day's, very soon. It has been written.........

[virgincrude]

From the article linked to above, this is an illustaration of what I mean:


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n 1976, Antony Sutton wrote,

"The assault on gold today is an integral part of a planned move into a new economic order under the dominance of a single country. It was Nazi Germany in the 1940's; it is the United States in the 1970's. In brief, the war on gold that we observe today, and discuss below, is dollar imperialism, designed to maintain the U.S. dollar as the only world currency without competitors. The purpose is the formation of a world totalitarian state under Wall Street dominance." (The War on Gold, Antony C. Sutton, 1976, p. 63)
Sutton's view was limited because he had not yet discovered the Trilateral framework just created three years earlier in 1973. We can see now that the totalitarian state is still clearly in view, but the self-proposed rulers of this new arrangement will be members of the Trilateral Commission, and their monetary "enforcer" will be gold.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'E')vents are happening too fast for One World Government to survive. The speed of events will multiply 20x's within the next 2 to 3 years. What took 20 years of changes in the 60's will take place in a matter of day's, very soon. It has been written.........

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'F')or those who see the current chaos as heralding the de facto end of all ambitions towards global governance, here's some stuff written by those who have been keeping an eye on things for longer than most of us:

The August Review

This guy focusses on the Trilateral Commission, a sister to the better known Council on Foreign Relations, others focus on 'illuminati' or the Bilderbergers. They are ALL related, and ALL work towards the same goal: One World Government. The August Review is thankfully largely free of the Alex Jones style which gives the 'conspiracy theorists' such a bad name.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he economic chaos in the world today is a direct result of policies set in motion to foster a New International Economic Order (NIEO). The NIEO was the explicit creation of the Trilateral Commission, founded by David Rockefeller and Zbigniew Brzezinski in 1973, and their early papers and task force reports clearly asserted their NIEO plans.

Members of the Trilateral Commission were instrumental in creating the European Union as well. The EU is the prototype of global governance that will soon exert its influence to reshuffle world relationships.

Since 1973, Trilateralists have dominated the Executive Branch of the U.S. government with politicians like Jimmy Carter, George H. W. Bush, Bill Clinton, Al Gore and Dick Cheney. This has led to domination of the world trade mechanisms like the World Bank and negotiation of free trade agreements.

Six out of eight presidents of the World Bank have been members of the Commission. Eight out of ten of the U.S. Trade Representatives (USTR) have been Commissioners.

Indeed, the Trilateral Commission has had undue influence and control over the development of globalization, and it was self-interested at best.
With today's total meltdown in economic and global financial markets, one must ask, "Are these people just plain stupid?"

The answer has to be "No", considering their great success at consistently dominating political and economic processes over a span of thirty-five years.

So what else is going on?
There is mounting evidence that there has been a larger plan underway to corner the global supply of gold, thus laying the groundwork for a global currency exclusively controlled by Trilaterals and their friends. By extension, economic and political mechanisms would be controlled to the same extent.

[oswald622]

Thanks for the link to the August Review - confirmation bias feels so good when it's in one's own favor!

I've been saying for a long time that it looks like we're headed toward a single monetary system undergirded by gold. The gold under the towers, the spot price falling even while physical shortages occur, the sales of gold out of national treasuries... Somebody out there is going to wield an awful lot of control once the fiat system finally conks out.

We're going to see one great big consolidation by 'Them' - first financial, then political.

I started a thread on how to evaluate the claims of the Conspiracy vs. Doomer theories, but it broke down before getting too far.

http://peakoil.com/fortopic38365.html

[NeoPeasant]

I'm hoping someone will answer the practical question - what will one need to do to appease our new global overlords so that he and his family may remain among the living?

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', 'I')'m hoping someone will answer the practical question - what will one need to do to appease our new global overlords so that he and his family may remain among the living?

[Tyler_JC]

What's wrong with a global government based on the European Union as a model?

People say, "world government" and everyone is supposed to run around screaming bloody murder.

Well what exactly is so terrible about having a uniform set of international law or a global trade union?

Most of the people in the EU are happy to be members and are glad to have the freedom and security offered by the organization. The EU is a shining example of the success of liberal democracy, not of fascist dictatorship.

Are we expecting a world government that puts a police officer armed with a machine gun on every street corner?

[Schneider]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hat's wrong with a global government based on the European Union as a model?

People say, "world government" and everyone is supposed to run around screaming bloody murder.

Well what exactly is so terrible about having a uniform set of international law or a global trade union?

Most of the people in the EU are happy to be members and are glad to have the freedom and security offered by the organization. The EU is a shining example of the success of liberal democracy, not of fascist dictatorship.

Are we expecting a world government that puts a police officer armed with a machine gun on every street corner?

[virgincrude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hat's wrong with a global government based on the European Union as a model?

People say, "world government" and everyone is supposed to run around screaming bloody murder.

Well what exactly is so terrible about having a uniform set of international law or a global trade union?

Most of the people in the EU are happy to be members and are glad to have the freedom and security offered by the organization. The EU is a shining example of the success of liberal democracy, not of fascist dictatorship.

Are we expecting a world government that puts a police officer armed with a machine gun on every street corner?

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Tyler_JC', 'W')hat's wrong with a global government based on the European Union as a model?

People say, "world government" and everyone is supposed to run around screaming bloody murder.

Well what exactly is so terrible about having a uniform set of international law or a global trade union?

Most of the people in the EU are happy to be members and are glad to have the freedom and security offered by the organization. The EU is a shining example of the success of liberal democracy, not of fascist dictatorship.

Are we expecting a world government that puts a police officer armed with a machine gun on every street corner?

[Tyler_JC]

I read every word of this thread.

Did anyone else read the editorial? (editorial, not news article)

And now for a world government

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut let us not get carried away. While it seems feasible that some sort of world government might emerge over the next century, any push for “global governance” in the here and now will be a painful, slow process.

[uNkNowN ElEmEnt]

Look at Kyoto. You name it, the world wants to put limits on it and the USA rebels. GMO's, Water use, CO2 levels, you name it. I can't imagine anyone telling the US what to do, or should I say the US actually doing as the rest of the world says.

World Gov't? Not unless it was the US pulling all the strings and calling all the shots and there is no way the other strong european countries will let them do that.

I don't see a way to build consensus toward this goal.

[Schneider]

Tyler, the current financial MESS we are in is because governments decided to push for regulations and manipulations into the throat of the free market.

Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton forcing banks to make loans to peoples who couldn't afford to, Greenspan pushing 10 billions dollars of liquidity each MONTH since 1997 into the financial system, and thus creating bubbles after bubbles (dot.com, housing) ending bigger than the last one and THEN..you're saying that you want MORE of that !?

And guess what, every central banks were jumping on board and did the same things all around the world..By the way, central banks are an idea of Karl Marx by the way, no wonder central banks are messing up so badly the free markets .

Each freaking time governments put their noses into private affairs it ended up in a big pile of s**t ! And our countries are doing the "Great Depression" scenario all over again, damn..

Old Einstein said one day : "You can't solve problems by using the same kind of thinking we used when we created them".

Governments are what created this mess, more government on a greater scale will just make things even worst. It's just the beginning, theses bastards are inflating away their depts and we'll PAY for this.

Inflation is coming. Then controls. Then rationing.

I don't want more of this crap because another layer of bureaucrats decided to do so .

[niknak]

Kis his toe and you'll get along fine.
Yu can even call yourself free.

[POAlex]

Tyler,

In our world, nations are in place to keep checks and balances. When the leader of one nation gets out of hand, like in World War II, other nations step in to stop it.

A nationless world government, lead by any person or group of people is by default going to become corrupt and turn into a dictatorship because people are born with a sinful nature and ultimately the checks and balances will have been diminished if not completely removed.

The day will come when one man will rule this world. He may come as a man of peace but he will ultimately prove to be the most wicked man in history.

Nonetheless, there is a true world government coming that will work perfectly under one condition - it will be lead by the Lord Jesus Christ.

Alex