[Armageddon]

http://www.infowars.com/?p=6423

[RedStateGreen]

Problem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.

Assuming someone really does want to "try and take over the world" ... how exactly are they going to run it with declining oil? That's the sort of thinking that led to the breakup of the Soviet Union and is contributing to the far rural areas in China doing whatever they please. There's no way to enforce things when you can't get to them.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's another boondoggle.

[bratticus]

Non-global gubmints have done such a great job. I don't see how a gubmint one could screw us up any worse.

[Carlhole]

And now for a world government

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FT.com', ' ')have never believed that there is a secret United Nations plot to take over the US. I have never seen black helicopters hovering in the sky above Montana. But, for the first time in my life, I think the formation of some sort of world government is plausible.

A “world government” would involve much more than co-operation between nations. It would be an entity with state-like characteristics, backed by a body of laws. The European Union has already set up a continental government for 27 countries, which could be a model. The EU has a supreme court, a currency, thousands of pages of law, a large civil service and the ability to deploy military force.

So could the European model go global? There are three reasons for thinking that it might.

[Armageddon]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'P')roblem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.

Assuming someone really does want to "try and take over the world" ... how exactly are they going to run it with declining oil? That's the sort of thinking that led to the breakup of the Soviet Union and is contributing to the far rural areas in China doing whatever they please. There's no way to enforce things when you can't get to them.

So I wouldn't worry too much about that. It's another boondoggle.

[Carlhole]

Oops. Didn't see the Armageddon post covering the same topic. He got there first.

link

[dukey]

peak oil must be a huge problem for global government
see as the 'solution' for peak oil is local economies, local food. The opposite of globalism.

[Armageddon]

With this looming planned worldwide economic depression we are entering, peak oil will be irrelevant. The days of economic growth are over. Global enslavement won't require near the amount of oil consumption we are currently using. Most of the world is calling for global governance now. After this economic crash, the sheep will be begging for it.

[virgincrude]

RedStateGreen: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roblem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.

[Sixstrings]

Swell, government by committee sounds great. Ahem.

[pedalling_faster]

like Paul Reiser's character in Aliens 2.

"let's build a fire. let's sing a song !"

Lucy & Ethel at the Chocolate Factory -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wp3m1vg06Q

let's start a new world-wide committee !

i thought the United Nations was supposed to play this kind of role. although, more effectively than the Reiser character, though not as entertaining as Lucy and her buddy.

[mos6507]

Can't we all just get along?

[flash width=425 height=344]http://www.youtube.com/v/Q8H5263jCGg&hl=en&fs=1[/flash]

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')well, government by committee sounds great. Ahem.

[seldom_seen]

I don't think it is a coincidence that we are seeing talk of "world government" at a time in history when the global economy is spinning out of control like a broken flywheel...with chunks flying in all directions breaking stuff.

The proponents of the global economy see something out of control and their natural response is to want more control. "We need a global government to control all these global problems." Is what I imagine them thinking. The idea is laughable though. It will never happen...we don't even know how long the tenuous EU will be around for.

They will exercise more control though, and this will be a bad thing for everyone.

It's now police state vs chaos. Don't get caught in the middle.

[virgincrude]

pup55: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')o you expect a "world government" with all of the increased complexity, cultural differences, language issues, and a terrible wealth distribution problem that says 1 billion people eat well, and the remaning 6 billion do not, do you expect such a system to be more organized than the system we have?

[ReverseEngineer]

Global Governance already occured. It was the "Pax Americana", the 20 or so years since the fall of the Soviet Union and the current collapse of Capitalism. For a short time, George Bush as heir to the Throne sucked the last of the wealth out of the world and into the hands of the Banksters. Paper Wealth of course based on contracts which are based on English Common Law, all currently going up in smoke as we speak.

In the time of the Roman Empire, they also ruled the World, insofar as the World was the furthest reaches they could reasonably get to. They were however limited by the techonlogy of the time to only a portion of the world before their transportations systems and infrastructure could support such a large organization. At that point, they could not expand their borders and so had to live off what was inside those borders, until it collapsed on itself.

The advent of the internal combustion engine, telegraphy, wireless radio, sattelites, computers and the internet made it possible to draw all the world together and exert control over it, for so long as there was energy enough to support all the systems. As with the Romans though, eventually here we exhausted the resources to such a point ALL of those systems cannot be maintained. The Romans could not push past certain boundaries based on their technology, and we cannot push past ours either. The Planet Earth is our boundary, and we have not despite outr best efoorts been able to conquer the Final Frontier. The EROEI to go to Mars and exploit that resource is beyond us. We can send up a probe or two, we cannot move masses of people over there or Terraform the planet to support human life. We are trapped on the Planet Earth, and when the resources run too thin to support 6B people, Cvilization as we know it collapses.

It does not necessarily mean an end to life on earth or even an end to human life. As with the fall of the Roman Empire, it just means a descent to a new Dark Age. There will not be a New World Order any time too soon, what there will be is incredible DISORDER. The One fractures to the Many here. It is impossible to say right now who will survive, either as an individual or as a community or as a nation. Governments will topple here like Dominoes in the Cascade Failure. There will be wars great and small, between nations and within nations. A Darkness will fall across the Earth, and many will fall as the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse ride herd across humanity.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

[pup55]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'o')ur children shall live, unawares, in a society of tightly controlled access to everything we hold dear

[StormBringer]

Keeping in mind the current events and the downward spin of future outlooks. I do think in a vain attempt for control, many will look at world government. But there is nothing to be feared more than an injured animal, which is exactly what our current governments are. Reaching out in any viable direction for a means to save themselves.
Although in the end to prove fruitless, and increase their desperation. Those governments with the military capabilities will attempt to gain control of other weaker nations to gain the resources necessary for survival, no matter what the cost in human lives, rights, or laws that have to be violated. I.E. Our own government here in the U.S. deploying troops on our own soil, under the lie of protection for natural disaster and terrorist attack. This is a slap in the face of our constitution which prohibits such activation to police our own.

[vision-master]

Events are happening too fast for One World Government to survive. The speed of events will multiply 20x's within the next 2 to 3 years. What took 20 years of changes in the 60's will take place in a matter of day's, very soon. It has been written.........

[Zero-point]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('virgincrude', 'R')edStateGreen: $this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')roblem is, for a global government you need the energy to maintain it. Police, fire, water, military, transport of food, etc.