[idiom]

That piece was hilarious.

What a way to diss a car.

[patience]

Maybe I missed something, possibly a deeply tongue in check Brit humour. But what I got from it was a genuine doomer rant. It sounded to me like he got the picture, for sure.

If so, it as a pretty thorough look at the futility to be seen in our present way of life.

[wisconsin_cur]

He is in the news... but not for the article:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')okes by Jeremy Clarkson on BBC2's Top Gear about murdering prostitutes did not breach the Broadcasting Code, Ofcom ruled today.

The regulator also found that an episode of Harry and Paul on BBC1, which depicted an upper class man encouraging his "Northerner" to mate with his neighbour's Filipina maid, was not in breach.

Both shows provoked widespread criticism after they were broadcast.

Ofcom received 339 complaints about comments made by Clarkson concerning lorry drivers, and complaints to the BBC topped 1,800.

As he completed a lorry-driving task, Clarkson said: "This is a hard job and I'm not just saying that to win favour with lorry drivers, it's a hard job.

"Change gear, change gear, change gear, check mirror, murder a prostitute, change gear, change gear, murder. That's a lot of effort in a day."

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')Rather what I think in subtext is going on in this column is Clarkson is working through his own demons.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')Yes it was very well written... no matter what your position I think one can appreciate his excellent writing...

it is good to be introduced to a personality who seems to have accomplished much on linguistic merit.

[StormBringer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Novus', 'T')his is the start of a Dark age not a depression. The system will never reboot because of resource complexity. After the Oil companies bankrupt the lights will go out forever. Most of the human race alive now will die-off horribly.

[wisconsin_cur]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')Yes it was very well written... no matter what your position I think one can appreciate his excellent writing...

it is good to be introduced to a personality who seems to have accomplished much on linguistic merit.

[centralstump]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')Yes it was very well written... no matter what your position I think one can appreciate his excellent writing...

it is good to be introduced to a personality who seems to have accomplished much on linguistic merit.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', '
')One need not agree with a thing to appreciate it when it is done well. And whatever you think of it; he is good at it.

[BlueGhostNo2]

Ahh you guys.

The important point isn't so much what he says but the fact that the topic comes up at all.

Clarkson is the popularists popularist, if he's talking about something it's basically mainstream. So he has somewhat lambasted the

Also, humour is an emotional defence, and reckoned to be one of the most healthy coping mechanistms there is....

The normal defences deployed by P.O. members being intellectualism and paranoia. These are significantly less good for your motivation.

So people take in the information and they laugh and rather than being depressed and sititing at home waiting to starve they then they go empty the supermarket. Damn Clarkson

[trigger1984]

I realise you must get topics like this from 1st time posters a lot but as you know believing things are going to get real bad is a bit of a lonely place.

By-the-by I don't know if anyone saw but predictions of the trouble to come came from an unlikely source in Jeremy Clarkson, here's the link to an article of his in The Times. http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/drivin ... 292547.ece

back to me and i'm in a difficult place right now, I just finished a degree, international relations, where I discovered all this, unfortunately there were only 5 people on that module so it didn't get spread too far. I've had some temporary jobs and the plan was to learn to drive - nearly done - before moving further afield to work.

It just doesn't seem like a good time to be moving away from family, places I know. My dad kind of gets it, actually we have an allotment and he says "oh, we'll need to stock up on tins and water and get guns" but never does any of these things. I need to do something but I'm unlikely to get anything other than a temporary, unfufilling job down here, plymouth, uk. I need to do something though, if this is going to be a bad recession it might be best to get a relatively stable job asap, whever it might be. I can't just sit around waiting for it to happen. On the other hand it's best to stay where I am if tshtf, it just depends how long that will take, if ever.

Sorry that was a bit of a jumble but i felt like i needed to get it down.

Trig

[davep]

Wow, Clarkson is a Doomer!

I'd recommend staying with your family and trying to get a gun. Join a gun club. Start hoarding food. Maybe find somewhere you can get to in the country. It may be worth renting a place for a couple of weeks per year, and taking it over as and when the need arises. Good luck.

[wisconsin_cur]

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[patience]

trigger 1984,

Yes, thinking ahead, planning, and actually DOING something to prepare can be lonely, indeed. The PLANNING forum here is a great help. Members are generous in answering questions, and knowledgeable, sp make use of this.

Every one of us wonders what to do. We debate outcomes, and plan for each of them, but no one knows the future for certain. the best I have seen is your own thoughts of the value of family and community where you are familiar and have contacts. I'd say keep those if you possibly can.

A good overview is the best start on any subject. Address your basic needs of food, shelter, clothing, water, energy, etc., within your present situation. Like the homely sampler on my friends' wall says, under a picture of a daisy, "bloom where you are planted". There may be better places, but it is what you have to work with just now, so do it. Most preparations are portable to some degree, even if you do have to relocate, which portability is worth some thought of itself.

Each place has its' pros and cons. The grit and determination in the British people is a thing of legend. Don't sell it short. My daughter spent time there on military assignment, and sang praises of the locals.

As a young person, you have vitality that will serve you well. Cheers!

[strider3700]

If you've been watching the current series of Top gear each week they do an in the news segment and lately they've been going on about how bad things are for super car owners. Some of the cars they discuss are going for 50% - 70% loss in value when they are barely used. Some of those cars Clarkson owns.

He's lost so much money on toys in the past 6 months he may actually be a doomer.

[emersonbiggins]

180-proof, pure distilled doomer porn!
The entire article is worth the read. Clarkson does eventually review the actual Vauxhall towards the end, though in passing.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Vauxhall Insignia 2.8 V6
An adequate way to drive to hell

Vauxhall Insignia
Jeremy Clarkson

I was in Dublin last weekend, and had a very real sense I’d been invited to the last days of the Roman empire. As far as I could work out, everyone had a Rolls-Royce Phantom and a coat made from something that’s now extinct. And then there were the women. Wow. Not that long ago every girl on the Emerald Isle had a face the colour of straw and orange hair. Now it’s the other way around.

Everyone appeared to be drunk on naked hedonism. I’ve never seen so much jus being drizzled onto so many improbable things, none of which was potted herring. It was like Barcelona but with beer. And as I careered from bar to bar all I could think was: “Jesus. Can’t they see what’s coming?”

Ireland is tiny. Its population is smaller than New Zealand’s, so how could the Irish ever have generated the cash for so many trips to the hairdressers, so many lobsters and so many Rollers? And how, now, as they become the first country in Europe to go officially into recession, can they not see the financial meteorite coming? Why are they not all at home, singing mournful songs?

It’s the same story on this side of the Irish Sea, of course. We’re all still plunging hither and thither, guzzling wine and wondering what preposterously expensive electronic toys the children will want to smash on Christmas morning this year. We can’t see the meteorite coming either.

I think mainly this is because the government is not telling us the truth. It’s painting Gordon Brown as a global economic messiah and fiddling about with Vat, pretending that the coming recession will be bad. But that it can deal with it.

I don’t think it can. I have spoken to a couple of pretty senior bankers in the past couple of weeks and their story is rather different. They don’t refer to the looming problems as being like 1992 or even 1929. They talk about a total financial meltdown. They talk about the End of Days.

Already we are seeing household names disappearing from the high street and with them will go the suppliers whose names have only ever been visible behind the grime on motorway vans. The job losses will mount. And mount. And mount. And as they climb, the bad debt will put even more pressure on the banks until every single one of them stutters and fails.

The European banks took one hell of a battering when things went wrong in America. Imagine, then, how life will be when the crisis arrives on this side of the Atlantic. Small wonder one City figure of my acquaintance ordered three safes for his London house just last week.
...

[Madpaddy]

Jeremy Clarkson and his buddies James May and Hamster Hammond appeared on Irelands main TV chat show on the Friday night they were here and they could barely speak they had been on the piss so much.

They would be fairly high level celebrities over here and probably couldn't go more than 2 steps down the street without someone buying them a pint as is our way. I had a drink with Norm from Cheers one night long ago in Galway.

No wonder Clarkson thought it was the last days of the Roman empire. However, there is a very very real sense in Ireland that we are in for some desperate times but as they are not quite here yet we might as well enjoy the present. Unemployment seems to be rising 1 percentage point every 3 weeks here at the moment.

[perdition79]

Best car review ever.

[mrbig]

Amazing didnt actually think Jeremy could perform in doomish times aswell.

[idiom]

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic48912-0.html