[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'C')riminy, I've tried prozac and other antidepressants. I can't tolerate them at all. They make me feel as though I'm losing (what's left of) my mind. Even more dissociative than the condition being treated.

As for dietary supplements, I've tried many but not found much relief in them, for anything. Most unbiased studies support the ineffectiveness of most supplements.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'T')ry to balance your energies. Perhaps your chakras are misaligned with too much energy in one or the other. So Chakra work could be worthwhile. In a sense yoga, poetry, nature walks do this. Intellectual activity to the exclusion of "soul work" separates mind from body. Yoga is a sort of gland massage, regulating hormonal activity. Tai Chi also stimulates energy body.

Also planets are now in odd constellation. If you are unbalanced it is becasue the planetary energies are catching you unbalanced and exaggerating that. Saturn opposition Uranus.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'T')ry to balance your energies. Perhaps your chakras are misaligned with too much energy in one or the other. So Chakra work could be worthwhile. In a sense yoga, poetry, nature walks do this. Intellectual activity to the exclusion of "soul work" separates mind from body. Yoga is a sort of gland massage, regulating hormonal activity. Tai Chi also stimulates energy body.

[oowolf]

Lemon balm (Melissa officinalis) tea works for me as a nervine. Have you tried Rhodiola rosea (adaptogenic/antidepressant)? Have you tried setting up an aromatherapy diffuser in your bedroom (for insomnia)?
Of course there are more potent plants available all the way up to poppy seed tea. But I am not an MD or a psychiatrist so I'm not prescribing anything.
Anyone self-medicating with drugs-natural or otherwise-should be well informed. The Experience Vault over on erowid is a good place to start but remember it's all ANECDOTAL.

[Heineken]

I appreciate the recommendations for soothing drinks.

I find George Dickel quite effective.

But the answer to anomie is not to be found in a glass, more than very briefly.

Perhaps that is the best I can hope for---brief respites from pain. Perhaps that is enough.

[jasonraymondson]

happy thoughts

Good Bye

[Pops]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'P')erhaps that is the best I can hope for---brief respites from pain. Perhaps that is enough.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', '
')I'm not really alluding to suicide. Just an abandonment of the fight. I'm ready to drift.

[galacticsurfer]

Reverse Engineer,

You have energy now for creative writing due to being well rested. So burn-out is the opposite requiring a vacation. Balance being party hard and work hard or being always a bout the same. Everybody has a different work/play balance depending on their personality make up.

This forum interaction can get monotonous if we stay at the same board discussing the same topics. First of all the topics get repaeated and then the people are th same resulting in stresses. On the other hand the physical monotony of the keyboard and eyes on the screen is another point. So if you waste lots of time online in one place burn out is guaranteed.

On the other hand general burn out when the forum reality starts penetrating into the outer reality can be a danger. We have seen this in the last year or so. All we have talked about is coming true. We cannot just turn off the doomer threads and get away from it. For that we have to stop watching or hearing news or reading the press entirely and avoid all human contact in the woods for months. Real Collapse seems imminent. What a bitch. This is no more hobby for depressives.

[Heineken]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'I')'m not really alluding to suicide. Just an abandonment of the fight. I'm ready to drift.

[ritter]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', '5'). The dichotomy I face every day that, on the one hand, I witness the very fabric of society disintegrating beyond repair, and such disintegration is increasing exponentially; and yet, on the other hand, I nevertheless work and function within this matrix as though nothing were wrong, and participate in our dysfunctional society as though it still has a future.

[Heineken]

Thank you, ritter.

I like the double entendre of "sole searching," whether intended or not. The deeper soul searching must be conducted alone.

Sadly, it does seem that the "doom" position is the correct one. Goes to my second signature. I've been hoping I was wrong all these years. But things keep getting worse, and the foundation for things getting better keeps melting.

[BigTex]

I went through something similar a few months ago--sort of like a wild animal before a thunderstorm, except I live in a house rather than the woods.

It lasted for several months, and then lifted, even as external events continued to deteriorate.

The world is always trying to trick us all, sometimes in very subtle and clever ways.

Be cautious about the manner in which you define reality. The world you conceive will be the world you inhabit. I've lived in happy ones and sad ones. The ones I liked least were the ones in which I was certain about what would happen in the future.

[Sixstrings]

galacticsurfer wrote:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ll we have talked about is coming true. We cannot just turn off the doomer threads and get away from it. For that we have to stop watching or hearing news or reading the press entirely and avoid all human contact in the woods for months. Real Collapse seems imminent. What a bitch. This is no more hobby for depressives.

[canuckinczech]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '
')Off topic, am I the only person shocked at the cost of honey? $4 for a little bear bottle!

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('galacticsurfer', 'R')everse Engineer,

You have energy now for creative writing due to being well rested. So burn-out is the opposite requiring a vacation. Balance being party hard and work hard or being always a bout the same. Everybody has a different work/play balance depending on their personality make up.

This forum interaction can get monotonous if we stay at the same board discussing the same topics. First of all the topics get repaeated and then the people are th same resulting in stresses. On the other hand the physical monotony of the keyboard and eyes on the screen is another point. So if you waste lots of time online in one place burn out is guaranteed.

On the other hand general burn out when the forum reality starts penetrating into the outer reality can be a danger. We have seen this in the last year or so. All we have talked about is coming true. We cannot just turn off the doomer threads and get away from it. For that we have to stop watching or hearing news or reading the press entirely and avoid all human contact in the woods for months. Real Collapse seems imminent. What a bitch. This is no more hobby for depressives.

[Sixstrings]

ReverseEngineer wrote:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he Bunker is always there in your mind to go to, but it is NOT Bunker Time yet.

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')
One philosophy I have always held to is that the minute you stop GROWING as a person is the minute you put one foot in the grave. Yes, its depressing to realize that so much of what you discussed int he past is coming true, but it does NOT mean its all over. It just means that NOW is the time everything you thought about will be put to the test. Now is the time you find out if your Preps really SUCCEEDED, in the sense that you really will have to make them WORK for you. Why did you spend allt hat time preparing if the real outcome here makes you passively resigned to the inevitable?

Be at Peace Heineken, you have fought the Good Fight. But do not give up yet. The Bunker is always there in your mind to go to, but it is NOT Bunker Time yet. There is still some Fight left in us all here, and its not time to give up the ghost until the Fat Lady Sings.

[galacticsurfer]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Being_and_Nothingness

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')Being and Nothingness is clearly influenced by Martin Heidegger's Being and Time, though Sartre was profoundly skeptical of any measure by which humanity could achieve a kind of personal state of fulfillment comparable to the hypothetical Heideggerian re-encounter with Being. In his much gloomier account in Being and Nothingness, man is a creature haunted by a vision of "completion," what Sartre calls the ens causa sui, and religions identify as God. Born into the material reality of one's body, in an all-too-material universe, one finds oneself inserted into being (with a lower case "b"). Consciousness is in a state of cohabitation with its material body, but has no objective reality; it is nothing ("no thing"). Consciousness has the ability to conceptualize possibilities, and to make them appear, or to nihilate them.

[vision-master]

Don't Fear the Reaper