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Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Market

Unread postby mattduke » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 09:57:39

You guys are going to love this one.

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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby KevO » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 10:40:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'Y')ou guys are going to love this one.

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see the US is not alone. We also have the symbiotic retards with guns.

symbiotic: one can't survive without the other
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby kpeavey » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 10:43:46

A section of my farm plan uses 4 companies. Company A grows the stuff. Company B does the marketing. Company C simply handles the money . Company D is a management firm.

Company A is invisible. Any names, addresses and references on packaging, vehicles, receipts will refer to company B. It owns no land and very little in terms of value. Land is leased from the owner. It does have a mailing address.

Company B handles the product. It may own property but will likely lease a storefront. It owns equipment, processing tools, and lots of shelving. It is the public aspect of the operation.

Company C is invisible. It holds all the money and serves as the accounting arm of all companies for liability purposes. They write the checks as a service for the other companies, naturally, there is a fee for this service.

Company D is invisible. It leases employees.

It's extra paperwork to be sure, but it hides the location of the farm from public view and hides the money from attorneys and taxing authorities. Who do you sue? The money is in the accounting which has no liability for a product sold or grown by a client. The company with the most liability, the grower, has shallow pockets. The employees and management also have shallow pockets. The landlord has real estate but is not involved with how the land is used and not affiliated with the companies involved, minimal to no liability.

None of this prevents people from walking through the woods to find a field of beans and chickens, but at least its not a road map.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Polemic » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 10:45:08

This has nothing to do with guns.

You could just as easily say, "See! Retards with automobiles mucking everything up! Stupid cars!"

Or, "stupid crossbows!"... "stupid fish nets!" ...

The problem here is that they are retards. Let's get rid of the problem. Let's get rid of the retards.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby KevO » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 10:50:45

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Polemic', '
')... "stupid fish nets!" ...
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I can assure you fishnets are not stupid nor are crotchless knickers
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Arsenal » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 10:52:36

It just seems to confirm what FerFal said in his Argentinean blog. Cities have high petty crime but the countryside has its own issues. Since they are secluded, help is farther away and sometimes the crimes are more heinous. Right now it is poaching but if things get worse then those crimes could get more serious.

Cities = low food, high petty crimes, kidnapping.
Country = high food, low petty crimes, possibility of really heinous crimes, torture.

Pick your poison. Me.. I would rather have food and a way to defend myself. :)
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby TommyJefferson » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 12:25:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'Y')ou guys are going to love this one.


I feel sorry for the people in Britian.

In Texas we have more rights to protect our property from theft. Stories like this help me appreciate human rights and freedom even more.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 12:51:46

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TommyJefferson', '
')I feel sorry for the people in Britian.

In Texas we have more rights to protect our property from theft. Stories like this help me appreciate human rights and freedom even more.


I totally agree. Our commitment to property rights and personal responsibility has always been very strong.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Sys1 » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 14:28:00

Mmmm... Gangs armed with crossbows... driving fast... nice people ready to take the law into their own hands as police can't do anything...
Reminds you something? :twisted:
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby mos6507 » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 15:26:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'M')mmm... Gangs armed with crossbows... driving fast... nice people ready to take the law into their own hands as police can't do anything...
Reminds you something? :twisted:


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Unread postby Spanktron9 » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 17:16:57

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sys1', 'M')mmm... Gangs armed with crossbows... driving fast... nice people ready to take the law into their own hands as police can't do anything...
Reminds you something? :twisted:


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Unh, uh. More like this...
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Cloud9 » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 18:34:35

England is perfectly safe. They gave up their guns long ago to make it so.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Ferretlover » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 19:42:44

Alright! The Mutant Zombie Hordes are getting organized!
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby ki11ercane » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 20:47:00

Sorry top burst everyone's bubble, but poaching is quote common, and has been going on since land was organized into sections for ownership. This situation is not uncommon.

Here in Canada (Manitoba) there is a lot of poaching going on all the time, right in front of me sometimes when I go hunting. It was going on when I was young, then again now when I am older and hunting again. Lots of deer are illegally shot and sold for their meat fur, antlers, etc. It won't make you stupid rich but it can be a solid income. It has reached a new high here that CANADA, a country that doesn't arm it's border guards now arms it's Conservation Officers and issues them body armor because the problem has become so bad in the past 10 years. When you mix money with something related to guns, you have to worried you could get shot as an enforcement officer.

If Environment Canada estimates say 20,000 deer shot in Manitoba for example, it's more like 40,000.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby FoolYap » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 21:08:39

Pfft. My 'frig has two crisper drawers that could supply the market all the black food it wants. :roll:

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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby DomusAlbion » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 21:10:57

The same problem exists here in Idaho. There are a lot of lumberjacks that are out of work and hungry.

We recently had our pond inspected by an officer from Fish and Game, so we could get a license to stock it. The guy was carrying (Glock 40 cal) and he had a shotgun in the car, plus he told me there was a .223 in the trunk. He said that officers in Fish and Game have more encounters with armed bad boys out on state land than most town cops have. Lots of poaching and stealing of state resources in remote areas.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby emeraldg40 » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 21:53:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('FoolYap', 'P')fft. My 'frig has two crisper drawers that could supply the market all the black food it wants. :roll:

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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Revi » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 22:04:24

We're having the same problems here in Maine. A friend complained that he found the remains of 2 poached deer on his property recently. Apparently people are hunting at night with bow and arrow a lot so they don't make noise.

People are getting a little desperate lately.

It's hard on the wildlife.
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby Schneider » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 22:40:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', 'S')orry top burst everyone's bubble, but poaching is quote common, and has been going on since land was organized into sections for ownership. This situation is not uncommon.

Here in Canada (Manitoba) there is a lot of poaching going on all the time, right in front of me sometimes when I go hunting. It was going on when I was young, then again now when I am older and hunting again. Lots of deer are illegally shot and sold for their meat fur, antlers, etc. It won't make you stupid rich but it can be a solid income. It has reached a new high here that CANADA, a country that doesn't arm it's border guards now arms it's Conservation Officers and issues them body armor because the problem has become so bad in the past 10 years. When you mix money with something related to guns, you have to worried you could get shot as an enforcement officer.

If Environment Canada estimates say 20,000 deer shot in Manitoba for example, it's more like 40,000.


I hope for them that they go the highest level of body armor..not much can stop a good old 303 british round 8O! But even then..if the poacher is as well stocked than the usual hunter, legs and head shot with a scope will render the body armor pretty useless..
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Re: Armed Gangs Head To Countryside To Supply Black Food Mar

Unread postby threadbear » Mon 17 Nov 2008, 23:11:16

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('KevO', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'Y')ou guys are going to love this one.

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see the US is not alone. We also have the symbiotic retards with guns.

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Have you actually lived in the U.S?
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