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')All I will predict here is that when all is said and done, you won't see Capitalism and you won't see Communism and you won't see Fascism and you won't see Slavery as working models upon which to rebuild society. All are tried and true failures.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters
by ReverseEngineer » Fri 14 Nov 2008, 05:20:46
Nope.
From historical perspective slavery & feudal systems which lasted many thousands of years were replaced by capitalism, which doesn't work in long term for the reason of limited resources.
It seems that sustainable feudalism & slavery were substituted by unsustainable capitalism for short term gains.
Communism and fascism were hopeless undertakings which lasted for decades only, so it is pointless to consider these as long term solutions.
I expect feudal systems and slavery to reemerge after capitalism collapsed.
That provided that something like 100 millions+ peoples worldwide survived coming dieoff and I think they will.
If slavery and feudal systems were sustainable, they would not have periodically crashed as the resources ran out. It did not take Capitalism to destroy Babylon, to destroy Egypt or to destroy Rome. Feudalism simply metamorphosed into Capitalism in the aftermath of the Enlightenment and the Industrial Revolution. Feudalism is just Capitalism without the disguise of Economic Slavery. Aristocracy=Banksters, Slaves=Workers, same system by another name, equally unsustainable.
No doubt, in places like Poland, the trip back DOWN the mountain will regress through the systems that were organized to make the trip UP the mountain. If you do NOT fall off a cliff, the best way down a Mountain is to retrace the steps you took climbing the mountain.
Here on the Last Great Frontier, we basically skipped over all those intermediary steps, when the land was purchased from the Ruskies it went from a few Natives living here to an Industrial state based on Oil in less than 100 years really. Alaska only became a State of the US in 1950, barely over a half century as part of this game.
Even today, there are not enough people living here for Alaska to devolve through the failures of the Feudal State and Slavery. Alaska will revert to Tribalism, just hopefully Tribalism powered by Natural Gas off the North Slope
Which we will trade by Barter directly for food, Protected by F-16 Jets and Aircraft Carriers powered by the remaining Oil in the ANWR and Uranium mined out of the endless Mountains here on the Last Great Frontier.
Alaskans are a tough bunch, the workers up on the Slope endure temperatures of 30 Below and more to bring down the Oil. Everyone here knows they depend on each other. A small band of very hardy people live up here and we have the stuff everyone wants, and we will PROTECT it, and we ourselves are PROTECTED by Mother Nature and the Mountains. Really BIG MOUNTAINS. The Great Wall that God Built. We could be Nuked, but then you would not get the Oil, the Natural Gas or the rest of the minerals that are still in abundance in these mountains. If you want it, you will have to fight the Alaskans for it, and every last one of them has a gun. Best of luck in that adventure.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters
by Cloud9 » Fri 14 Nov 2008, 07:44:28
I have a better idea. How about letting me swap you some oranges from sunny Florida for a little N.G.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters
by MarkJ » Fri 14 Nov 2008, 09:30:31
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I'm amazed at the money some slumlords are getting for run down uninsulated, unheated apartments in bad neighborhoods with no off-street parking.
I think this is perfectly justified.I'm amazed at the money some slumlords are getting for run down uninsulated, unheated apartments in bad neighborhoods with no off-street parking.
The slumlords are taking a huge financial risk in renting out to these low-income bad credit people.
True. I'll let apartments sit vacant before I'll rent them to people without sufficient income, credit, references and work history. You'll never recover lost rent, time, money, legal/eviction costs and thousands of dollars in property damages from people without good income, credit and nothing to lose. Even if you win a court judgement, you'll never collect since they often owe money to many other people, owe child support, work under the table jobs, or they're in and out of jail.
Slumlords minimize their risk by purchasing and renting run down tax auction properties and foreclosures. They buy them dirt cheap, don't put much money in them, don't maintain them, do minimal patchwork repairs and don't provide heat and hot water. Many don't have appliances, have bare floors, no insulation, old single pane windows, mid 1900s heating systems, space heaters, electric baseboard heaters, gas-on-gas stoves. I've seen landlords paint over human/pet urine stains, fecal matter, hair, bugs.
Many of these run down apartments cost tenants a fortune to heat in the winter months, plus the heat and hot water systems are constantly breaking down, pipes freezing/cracking/bursting. When you run the numbers, many people living in larger luxury apartments with heat and hot water included are actually spending less money overall.
With landlord tenant law that favors tenants and astronomical operational costs, fewer people want to be landlords these days. They can't give away some of the multi-families at tax auctions. New landlords often last less than a year before they're so overwhelmed with debt, lost time and stress that they want out.
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