[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('threadbear', 'N')ot a good sign, superficially--for sure. But consider this-- These people may be some of the few that know what is actually going on, what murk lies below the murk we know about. Perhaps they can best advise him how to act preemptively. Hopefully he'll be saavy enough to call them on attempts at corrupting the process in the favour of bankers, against the citizen's interest.

On the other hand Obama could be the anti-Christ, in which case he should be recalled!

[Novus]

What are you saying Loki that is so bad that it is being censored?

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('eastbay', 'A')nyone expecting change is delusional.

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RSFB', 'W')hat's the deal with Ireland?

[AlexdeLarge]

Wow..........Peter Schiff is a bigot too???

Peter Schiff 051108 - Obama = print print print print print

Note: Any criticism of Obama is on its face...racist.

[Eli]

I must have missed the bigot part where is it at Alex?

[eastbay]

Alex was joking.... strange joke... but joking nevertheless.

[efarmer]

We are past the threshold of experiencing that our stubborn
clinging to our individual ideologies is at the expense of
having enough common purpose to pursue an acceptable
future. We cannot borrow relief, we cannot go out
and simply conquer relief, and if we do not settle down
and work out some modicum of relief among ourselves,
there may not actually be any relief. I also believe that using
our wits and brains to project into the future and find
elements to build a strong case to undermine our efforts
in the here and now is a worthless pursuit. I hope to
hold my poison inside and let the better things out for
as long as I can persist if for no other reason than I
chose not to live the alternative. If you don't have any
hope I understand, but I would ask you to consider not
actively sharing your despair.

[Falconoffury]

I was thinking of destroying the next stimulus check. Maybe I could make a youtube video of me burning it, so there is no doubt in anyone's mind.

At least then I will have put my money where my mouth is. We need monetary reform. There is way too much debt at all levels, especially government. The money system is flawed because the act of paying off debt for one, creates more debt for another. There is always more debt in the system than capital, and the gap only widens the longer we allow this system to continue.

[Lanthanide]

My partner is an American and hasn't paid any taxes to the US in all the time he's been living here because he earns under the reporting limit.

Yet he still got a $300 cheque in the mail from the last stimulus. A guy at his work who is American and has kids got his wife citizenship, but she has never actually lived in the US at all. They both got $600 cheques due to having children.

Thought you yanks might be interested to know that your economic stimulus cheques are leaving the country and helping to stimulate other economies

[Twilight]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') was thinking of destroying the next stimulus check. Maybe I could make a youtube video of me burning it, so there is no doubt in anyone's mind.

[galacticsurfer]

I read somewhere today that the US would have a 2 Trillion deficit in 2009 fiscal year. they already have in one month into the fiscal year a $253 billion fiscal deficit. This can'T b finaced throught he Chinese this time as they are finacign their own stimulus program. They are not gonna be buying US bonds because they won't have any cash from expors to America which are not being sold anymore. So no deficit = no stimulus program= no recovery= no growth= DEPRESSION.

OBAMA could be fricking Green and it won't make no difference.

[Falconoffury]

I think it would give me more a right to complain. Anyone with kids should thank me. It means less money that future generations will have to pay off.

[Arsenal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'I') was thinking of destroying the next stimulus check. Maybe I could make a youtube video of me burning it, so there is no doubt in anyone's mind.

[AlexdeLarge]

Why Washington Cannot Prevent Depression

"The government cannot repeal the law of gravity or stop investors from dumping their assets.

It cannot turn back the clock or reverse decades of financial sins.

It cannot win the battle against depression.

It cannot stop the Dow or S&P from losing half their value from current levels, if not more.

It cannot stop the collapse in real estate, commodities, and corporate bonds.

So act promptly now to liquidate or hedge your holdings, build cash and make sure the cash is safe."

[dohboi]

"make sure the cash is safe"

Generally good advice, except it is getting harder and harder to determine where "safe" is.

It doesn't matter who's in charge. As we should all know here, PO means none of the usual methods are going to be effective at even slightly ameliorating the inevitable.


WPA-type projects to insulate homes, establish gardens, teach basic skills...might be part of a strategy. But people would first have to have some glimmering of the depth of the sh*t hole we are at the bottom of, and no one, no one of any stature is ready to tell us that..yet.

[Falconoffury]

After the first stimulus check went out, I got into an argument with a family member over whether the stimulus was a good idea. She asked me if I accepted the money from the stimulus check. My reply was "yes". At that point, I had no ground on which to stand. It will not happen again. Anyone who accepts the stimulus money should not argue when the USA goes bankrupt. If the deficits keep going the way they are, this is debt that may have to be serviced for the rest of the USA's life.

[Tyler_JC]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Falconoffury', 'A')fter the first stimulus check went out, I got into an argument with a family member over whether the stimulus was a good idea. She asked me if I accepted the money from the stimulus check. My reply was "yes". At that point, I had no ground on which to stand. It will not happen again. Anyone who accepts the stimulus money should not argue when the USA goes bankrupt. If the deficits keep going the way they are, this is debt that may have to be serviced for the rest of the USA's life.

[AgentR]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('flapjax', ' ') Could you not have posted that the depression is coming without dragging Obama through the mud at every turn, you freaking bigot.

[patience]

Not being an accountant myself, I can't understand labels on money, so if the govt took money from me in taxes (thievery), then it is MY money if they decide to give some back, albeit, somewhat devalued.

You can bet I will spend any forthcoming stimulus check just like I spent the last one--on preps. The sooner the better, too, before they can dilute the currency any worse than it is now. I didn't make this mess, I know TPTB are doing all the wrong things, and I have no say in the matter, not even having a real choice in elections. (Dumb and Dumber.) Therefore, what comes to me legally, I will use to my best advantage, which is usually the opposite of what official "policies", like govt fiscal and monetary policies, try to motivate me to do, that is, save or spend. My personal best interest is always not what they want the herd to do.

In the case of a stimulus check, they want you to spend it to spark the economy, so the best use would be to SAVE the money for future use. Saving cash, in this case, in the face of powerful inflation just ahead, would be foolish due to the lost buying power. Therefore, by spending it on future NEEDS, I am actually saving those GOODS for a rainy day, against future need for cash.