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Re: Popular Mechanics--Relax, High Tech Offshore Is Here

Unread postby Rogozhin » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 02:48:18

[quote]And it's hard not to argue with a simple fact: Shell and other oil companies aren't spending billions of dollars without believing that it'll pay off for years to come. "We're putting all of our free cash into oil and gas development," says Russ Ford, vice president of development for Shell. "We believe hydro-carbons will be there for a very long time. Nothing is going to knock down oil."[quote]


Can they not predict the amount of oil in the underwater fields?
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Re: Popular Mechanics--Relax, High Tech Offshore Is Here

Unread postby BigTex » Mon 31 Mar 2008, 09:06:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Rogozhin', 'C')an they not predict the amount of oil in the underwater fields?
It's however much we need, plus a little extra.
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Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby copious.abundance » Fri 07 Nov 2008, 23:26:06

--> World Oil Magazine <--
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '[')b]Future drilling technology: Closer than you think
Safer, more automated drilling and with greater capabilities for managing difficult pressure environments than the best we have today-in other words, a reach into the future-is making good progress. Even remotely operated drilling is possible.

Steinar Strom, Mohsen Karimi Balov, Halvor Kjorholt, Rune Gaaso, StatoilHydro; Erlend H. Vefring , IRIS; Rolv Rommetveit , SINTEF Petroleum Research

StatoilHydro believes that a new, fully Automated Drilling System (ADS), while a major technological effort, is achievable in the relatively near future. The company is pursuing various sub-systems for incorporation into an all-inclusive integrated system. Two different solutions are the Drilltronics (IRIS/NOV) and the eControl/eDrilling (SINTEF /HPD/Aker Solutions) concepts.

The Drilltronics system is based on mathematical computer models for dynamic real-time analysis of drilling processes; critical limits for operational parameters, such as drilling fluid pump rate, trip velocity and optimal process parameters are calculated. The result is used to control drilling equipment in real time. The new system has been field tested on the Statfjord C platform. Combining the new system with wired pipe, decision support programs and continuous measurements of drilling fluid parameters give synergy effects that, in the future, may allow remotely operated drilling systems.

eDrilling is an innovative system for real-time drilling simulation, 3D visualization and control from a remote drilling expert center and is the technology basis for eControl, which is a rig supervision, optimization and control system that will integrate 3D visualization of the wellbore with advanced drilling process models.

This article gives an overview of field-tested, pilot-tested equipment and the synergy effect when combing different technical solutions in future drilling scenarios.

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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby seldom_seen » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 00:14:42

Awesome! We'll be able to drain what's left even quicker now!
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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby mos6507 » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 00:17:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seldom_seen', 'A')wesome! We'll be able to drain what's left even quicker now!


Yep, 3' of global warming here we come!
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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby neocone » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 01:56:54

Tribal lifestyle and return to the Land is the future... closer than you think :P

Nature has its own energy capitalism which no governement bailout will ever be able to fight or pervert.

My friend who just came back from a year long expedition in the amazonian forest for his anthropology studies asked me this morning:

"Are all of the sudden a lot of people flip floppers??? What has changed in the last year to see so many idiots want to drill more all of the sudden and environmental concerns be set aside?"
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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby mos6507 » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 02:57:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('neocone', '
')Are all of the sudden a lot of people flip floppers??? What has changed in the last year to see so many idiots want to drill more all of the sudden and environmental concerns be set aside?


Remember in the 1970s not only did we have the oil crisis but a new awareness of the health dangers of smog, yes smog. That was actually the impetus for the first generation of electric vehicles like the EV1. CARB in southern california were empowered on the basis of protecting the public health from smog, since the LA basin is a big bowl that traps pollution in. By the late 1990s people got so drunk with cheap oil that aside from greenies in Los Angeles (and a minority there at that), nobody even talked about smog anymore. But smog is still a problem. Los Angeles air, for instance, is still the worst in the country. (I'm sure I've caused some permanent harm to myself for spending 13 years there, and my daughter 8.) Even if Global Warming never existed, we'd still have smog. Nobody cares. Being able to drive your gas powered car at an affordable price means all of the downstream effects of that behavior gets treated as mental noise to be filtered out. We concern ourselves with a lot of other health issues, cigarettes, transfats, but smog? As long as our cars pass the emissions test we assume we're not polluting. But a picture is worth a thousand words.

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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby TheDude » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 05:44:57

As usual ROCK or rockdoc may be able to tell you how groundbreaking this is. Remember THAI (Toe To Heel Air Injection)? Can't find any hits for it on Google News, even though I see Petrobank's stock has risen 1020%.

Even before I learned about peak oil I'd read how the deepwater offshore rigs were considered the stuff of science fiction until the IOCs knuckled down and actually built them. So, Will Technology Delay Peak Oil ?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')n the Prudhoe Bay field's early days, oil industry said the field would ultimately produce ~10 billion barrels (Gb) of oil. Jeremy Gilbert, former BP Chief Petroleum Engineer, has stated that the field's producers had aninternal estimate of ~12-15 Gb. The lower end of that estimate is now supported by production data since the field started declining in the late 1980s (see Fig. 1).

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Extrapolation of the best-fit line through the declining data points gives an ultimate recovery of ~12.3 Gb. From 1989 through 2003, the Prudhoe Bay field declined at an average rate of 10.1%/year. In this case, advanced extraction technology has not significantly altered the initial EUR value. The same situation is also observed for North Sea fields. Oil producers working in the North Sea have used the best available technology. Those technologies have led to very high production rates in the early stages of production and ultimately high decline rates. Table 1 illustrates that point.
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Re: Future drilling technology: Closer than you think

Unread postby Maddog78 » Sat 08 Nov 2008, 09:35:41

This technology will not really have that big of an impact.
They are more about remote monitoring and control of the drilling operation.

It still involves operating the same pipes, pumps and someone still has to mix the same type of drilling fluids they use now.
This is more so the guys in the office can keep a closer eye on the ops.

I see a lot of downtime/repairs for this system when it is actually introduced to the field and it will take a long time for non-Norwegian drilling contractors to pick up on it, especially in this current economic climate.
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Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby vaseline2008 » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 18:08:33

I'm just curious if anyone has any info on the total amount of oil thats ever been extracted from the Earth. I did an Excel spreadsheet to calculate 85 Million barrels over 36,500 days (roughly 100 years) and came out with 3.1 Trillion barrels. I know we haven't been pumping oil at 85 mbpd for the past 100 years but would it be safe to say that we have pumped out around 2 Trillion barrels thus far in human history?

I couldn't find anything on Google or here on PO.
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Re: Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 18:12:15

It's roughly a trillion barrels.
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Re: Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby startswithearthquakes » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 19:32:11

So .. what lake does that = to?
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Re: Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby eastbay » Wed 03 Dec 2008, 19:34:30

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Re: Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby vaseline2008 » Mon 08 Dec 2008, 19:57:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('3aidlillahi', 'I')t's roughly a trillion barrels.

Thanks, but can you give me a source? I really tried :) to find the stats but came up short, then I decided to post here.
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Re: Does anyone know the Total Amount of Oil ever extracted?

Unread postby zeke » Thu 22 Jan 2009, 08:20:02

Or put another way, enough oil has been extracted for us to get real comfy with a squanderous lifestyle and with our belief that the laws of physics do not apply to us or to any of our activities, past, present, future, whether or not we are able to fly at Warp 10 to the planet where the hot green chicks boogie.

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how much oil is consumed and wasted during extraction?

Unread postby Bartolo » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 23:27:56

I'm preparing for a Doctorate in Economics in Ireland. I am going to do research related to crude oil. I would like to know how much oil is consumed and wasted during the proccess of extraction (when i make calculations following the statistic of 'oil consumption by country' from NationMaster.com i get to the conclussion that Canada uses almost 30 times more oil then China per capita what is incredible). Please let me Your opinion.

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Re: how much oil is consumed and wasted during extraction?

Unread postby Blacksmith » Sun 01 Feb 2009, 23:32:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bartolo', 'I')'m preparing for a Doctorate in Economics in Ireland. I am going to do research related to crude oil. I would like to know how much oil is consumed and wasted during the proccess of extraction (when i make calculations following the statistic of 'oil consumption by country' from NationMaster.com i get to the conclussion that Canada uses almost 30 times more oil then China per capita what is incredible). Please let me Your opinion.

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Re: how much oil is consumed and wasted during extraction?

Unread postby AAA » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 17:09:59

Your questions doesn't make any sense because it is impossible to measure.

First of all define "wasted".

Second define "during extraction"

Do you include only well site fuel consumption, the utility companies fuel used to set up pipelines or electrical grids to the well, the delivery trucks transporting equipment to the site, the office employees driving to work, the company jet, the fuel used from a ship that transports products used on the well from across the ocean, the gas used by the landman who negotiated the oil and gas lease, the gas driven by the geologist while he was in college, the gas used by the engineer when he went out to lunch, the oil used to lube the pipe fittings, oil used to transport all the office furniture to the company office, oil used in making the company furniture, oil used in etc....

Not to be rude but do you see my point?
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Re: how much oil is consumed and wasted during extraction?

Unread postby lper100km » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 20:08:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Bartolo', 'I')'m preparing for a Doctorate in Economics in Ireland. I am going to do research related to crude oil. I would like to know how much oil is consumed and wasted during the proccess of extraction (when i make calculations following the statistic of 'oil consumption by country' from NationMaster.com i get to the conclussion that Canada uses almost 30 times more oil then China per capita what is incredible). Please let me Your opinion.

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One of the characteristics of a doctoral candidate surely has to be the ability to express their thoughts clearly, both orally and literally.

I have to say that it bothers me immensely when I see obvious spelling errors and incomplete sentences in a four line paragraph coming from someone who is staking a claim to a career in intellectual and analytical pursuits where the ability to communicate is a prime consideration. I am aware that it is possible that English is not your first language, since there is so much mobility, especially in Europe. But, please, a career in economics is all about ideas and words and that does need an especial grasp of language.

That may be your hardest challenge.

Maybe you should get to know something of the industry before you embark on your thesis. It’s a bad time to be looking for work, but a couple of years experience in the business could only help your understanding and give you some perspective.
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Re: how much oil is consumed and wasted during extraction?

Unread postby Bartolo » Mon 02 Feb 2009, 23:01:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('AAA', 'Y')our questions doesn't make any sense because it is impossible to measure.

First of all define "wasted".

Second define "during extraction"

Do you include only well site fuel consumption, the utility companies fuel used to set up pipelines or electrical grids to the well, the delivery trucks transporting equipment to the site, the office employees driving to work, the company jet, the fuel used from a ship that transports products used on the well from across the ocean, the gas used by the landman who negotiated the oil and gas lease, the gas driven by the geologist while he was in college, the gas used by the engineer when he went out to lunch, the oil used to lube the pipe fittings, oil used to transport all the office furniture to the company office, oil used in making the company furniture, oil used in etc....

Not to be rude but do you see my point?


Thanks for Your answer. Is there anything I can help you with?

I am particularily looking for statistics. It would be great, if I could find v.detailed statistics, e.g. according to your spec. To be honest I didn't think about this topic so deeply.

My simple answers to your questions are:
wasted - used or consumed
extraction - all direct and indirect costs, almost everything mentioned. Maybe only without college costs (these costs are more related to education).

Do you know any sources of data mentioned?

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