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Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 16:27:19

Black Panthers in paramilitary dress menacing voters with a nightstick in Philadelphia, before the police arrived and put a stop to it.

Whatever it takes to get "the one" elected!

Black Panthers threaten voters
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 01:51:17

Yeah seriously, that's pathetic.

If they were serious about committing voter fraud, they would buy Diebold.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby smallpoxgirl » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 02:18:36

That's definitely gross, but I doubt those two douche bags were the deciding factor in the election.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Dreamtwister » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 03:37:25

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'U')nlike militia types who only take up arms to keep down their own poor brethren. pathetic.


I thought the "militia types" just took up arms so they could have something to brag about when their friends came over. Because they certainly aren't using them for anything else.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Loki » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 03:48:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'g')ive it up. you losers lost. big time.

I loved the Black Panthers. They were the first good people to take up arms in defense of freedom, true Americans. Unlike militia types who only take up arms to keep down their own poor brethren. pathetic.

Most Black Panthers, both old and new, would have gladly put a bullet in your dumb white ass.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Ludi » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 13:16:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', ' ')my dumb daughter


He calls his OWN DAUGHTER "dumb" 8O

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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Chuckmak » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 16:20:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cbxer55', ' ')my dumb daughter


He calls his OWN DAUGHTER "dumb" 8O

Buh bye, cbxer55


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So I see both sides of this. It sucks, Ludi :(

So yeah, cbxer, I'm borderline wanting to put you on ignore but you're just a mirror image of my parents.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Pops » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 16:53:15

Funny how stuff changes as it gets retold/resold.

The Black Panthers original goal was a protest against the ban on carrying unconcealed weapons in CA.

Won't hear that in any NRA or Republican literature methinks.

Does no one care about reading history aside from bumper stickers?

Kinda makes you wonder if the founding fathers were right in their fear of popular representation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Panther_Party
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby mercurygirl » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 17:03:11

I see nothing wrong with their intention of defending the poor of any color.
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Nefarious » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 17:32:40

Their 10 point program

We want power to determine the destiny of our black and oppressed communities' education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present-day society.
We want completely free health care for all black and oppressed people.
We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of black people, other people of color, all oppressed people inside the United States.
We want an immediate end to all wars of aggression.
We want full employment for our people.
We want an end to the robbery by the capitalists of our Black Community.
We want decent housing, fit for the shelter of human beings.
We want decent education for our people that exposes the true nature of this decadent American society.
We want freedom for all black and oppressed people now held in U. S. Federal, state, county, city and military prisons and jails. We want trials by a jury of peers for all persons charged with so-called crimes under the laws of this country.
We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, peace and people's community control of modern technology
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby da23 » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 19:45:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nefarious', '1')0 point program

We want power to determine the destiny of our communities' education that teaches us our true history and our role in the present-day society.
We want completely free health care for all people.
We want an immediate end to police brutality and murder of all
We want an immediate end to all wars of aggression.
We want full employment for people.
We want an end to the robbery by the capitalists of our Community.
We want decent housing, fit for the shelter of human beings.
We want decent education for people that exposes the true nature of this decadent society.
We want trials by a jury of peers for all persons charged with so-called crimes under the laws of this country.
We want land, bread, housing, education, clothing, justice, peace and people's community control of modern technology


fixed :) sorry about that :P
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Loki » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 23:10:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Pops', 'F')unny how stuff changes as it gets retold/resold.

The Black Panthers original goal was a protest against the ban on carrying unconcealed weapons in CA.

Won't hear that in any NRA or Republican literature methinks.

That may have been their first action, but it was hardly the "original goal" of the organization. The original Black Panthers was basically a Black Nationalist organization, a mix of radical civil rights movement (with a strong tinge of anti-white racism), socialism/Maoism, and thuggery. It devolved into mostly the latter, not surprising given the criminal records of some of the main players (look up Eldridge Cleaver for one---he admits to raping multiple women in his autobiography).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'D')oes no one care about reading history aside from bumper stickers?

Well, I cared enough to get my MA in American History, which included a fair bit of reading on the social movements of the 1960s. How about you?
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Re: Black Panthers and Your Right to Vote

Unread postby Pops » Thu 06 Nov 2008, 02:38:15

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Loki', 'H')ow about you?

This part I didn't need to read, I saw it over the TV tray as a kid and listened to my folks rail against the blacks as well as the government. We lived a hop and skip away from Oakland and Walter brought it all in just in time for supper - it was kind of scary.

Now my folks were as bigoted as any Dixiecrats from TX & OK but as Okies they could identify with people seeking to defend themselves from poverty and opression. Regan was trying to take away their ability to defend themselves on the one hand and the "radicals" were marching around on the other, kind of scary.

The B/W snowy video of Black Panthers openly carrying rifles in the street sticks in my mind, I was probably around ten and have no idea what was said but it was pretty tense around the TV trays in my memory.

My folks, probably as much as any whites of the time knew how much animosity can build up when you are put down. But having grown up with firearms as a tool of not only defense but harvest, I'm sure they felt danger from both sides.

I guess it's that juxtaposition of my parents' bigotry, their own oppression and their fear but mostly their unexpressed empathy for The Other that makes me see in grayscale and not just black and white.


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