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When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

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When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

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When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby Narz » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 11:48:15

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test

Just curious as to what people think.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby kakkerlak » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 14:31:25

Not very long ago i found a website containing a chat interface, making it possible to chat with a chat bot. This bot used chat logs from past conversations (human vs human and human vs bot) to generate a suitable answer. This bot even appeared to have its own personality; it was not a nice bot and it liked to curse at you. The reason for not being nice was because most people, from which it got its data, where not nice in their conversations.

Anyway...a computer needs conciousness or at least the ability to simulate it. Without this a computer will never be able to fool a human into thinking it is a human. However, i think a computer is able to fool some people for about a minute or something when talking about the weather, for example.

Hmmm....thinking about this. Our current technology makes computers about as smart as small flying insects, i think. The military, for example, is already using small little airplanes capable of protecting territory without human interference. They are even able to attack enemy's on their own. *cough* Discovery channel says that. :oops:

The thing is...even if a computer is able to have a conversation it doesn't necessarily mean the computer understands it. It is just printing data, found in a database, on the screen.

50 years or more, unless the internet somehow "evolves".

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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 15:09:43

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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby obixman » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 15:16:10

What makes think I haven't already....

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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 15:25:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('obixman', 'W')hat makes think I haven't already....

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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby bromius » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 15:46:52

I failed the Turing test :(
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby vtsnowedin » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 15:51:34

8) perhaps you could get a machine to "think" at that level but the machine would still not "Care" about what it was thinking and would have no desire or ego to stroke.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby PenultimateManStanding » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 16:38:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vtsnowedin', '8')) perhaps you could get a machine to "think" at that level but the machine would still not "Care" about what it was thinking and would have no desire or ego to stroke.
Yet that's what it would take to pass the Turing Test. Maybe they could simulate caring and ego. It wouldn't be real, but a good simulation would make for a good sociopathic machine.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 17:05:30

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turing_test#Loebner_Prize

"The Loebner Prize does not usually force programs to demonstrate a full range of intelligence; they are reserved for testing chatterbot programs, or Artificial Conversational Entities (ACE)s. Even in this limited form, however, the tests are still very rigorous. Nevertheless, the 2008 Loebner Prize abided closely by Turing's original concepts: conversations between each interrogator and unseen or unheard entity have been allowed five minutes only, not the twenty minutes or more in previous Loebner contests, since 2004."

i think we're between the 5 minute & 20 minute time parameters described by the Loebner Prize. the Turing Test needs a time limit.

also, is this for communication by keyboard ? i would say it's possible to imitate someone like Rush Limbaugh, except for the voice.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 18:14:57

Singularity Summit 2008 Reviewed

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')n Saturday October 25, 2008 I attended the Singularity Summit at the Montgomery Theatre in San Jose, CA. An impressive lineup of speakers, including Ray Kurzweil (de facto singularity advocate), Peter Diamandis (Founder/Chairman of Xprize Foundation), Vernor Vinge (famous science fiction author), and Justin Rattner (CTO of Intel) were on showcase for the roughly 500 attendees. The summit was thought provoking, inspiring, and overall a success.

The summit began promptly at 9:00am and continued throughout the day until 6:00pm with a few breaks in between and a one and a half hour lunch break. Here are the Hub’s major takeaways from the event:

1. When people become believers in a near term singularity (a singularity that may come in their lifetimes) they radically change their behavior in terms of risk tolerance, eating habits, and investment horizon. If large numbers of people begin to believe in a near term singularity this poses the possibility of enormous and potentially dangerous upheavals for society.

2. Even if a true singularity is not reached within our lifetimes the singularity summit reinforces the vision that tremendous technological change beyond our imagining is coming in the next 40 years. In the next 5 years an explosion in interest about the singularity and the pace of accelerating technology may occur.

3. According to Ray Kurzweil, solar energy is an information technology that is experiencing exponential growth. Solar energy production has doubled every year for the last 20 years and is now only 8 doublings away (that is about 10 years!) from providing nearly all of the world’s energy needs. The implications of this trend are huge and warrant careful consideration for the environment, investment, politics, etc.

4. Peter Diamandis announced that the Singularity University (SU) will be launched in the near future. The Hub’s Keith Kleiner will be a founding member of SU and we will have much more to say about SU soon!

5. According to Intel CTO Justin Rattner Intel has a solid roadmap that will ensure that Moore’s law will continue for at least another 10 years, by which time computers will be at least 1,000 times more powerful than today’s computers

6. Virtual worlds will continue to gain traction and functionality as people continue to recognize and leverage the unique advantages that these worlds offer versus the physical world.

7. Computers may be able to beat humans at chess and air hockey, but they are still a long way off from emulating human emotion and social behavior. Demonstrations today of the cutting edge in computer emulation of emotion and social ability were downright pitiful. Of course it is possible that we will make big leaps in the coming years, but today’s demonstrations were not encouraging.

Below is a breakout of the entire Singularity Summit: ...
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby Narz » Mon 03 Nov 2008, 19:35:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pedalling_faster', 'i') think we're between the 5 minute & 20 minute time parameters described by the Loebner Prize. the Turing Test needs a time limit.

I'd say between 20-30 minutes is a good time limit.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby 3degreesoffreedom » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:35:23

Wedo not have five years.
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby jasonraymondson » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 10:48:39

They are obviously not asking the right question. Ask the bot if it sucks dick and then continue asking several times.

You would figure that out pretty quick
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby IslandCrow » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 11:05:14

You are all obviously too young to have played with 'Eliza' :roll:
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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby mattduke » Tue 04 Nov 2008, 15:45:16

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Re: When will a computer pass the Turing Test?

Unread postby Narz » Wed 05 Nov 2008, 10:35:24

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('IslandCrow', 'Y')ou are all obviously too young to have played with 'Eliza' :roll:

I had that for Mac back in the early 90's. :-D
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