[mattduke]

If you have to ask where wealth comes from, you obviously haven't been creating much.

[Quinny]

Certainly not recently!

I've made a lot of money in my time, but only within the current system.

So are you saying the original premise is wrong?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'I')f you have to ask where wealth comes from, you obviously haven't been creating much.

[Javaman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'R')ead it. What's to get back to you about?

[Quinny]

Please sir can I do my tables instead?

Cheeky B*gger!

The credit is only needed because of the f*cked up system that permates all our industry including agribusiness.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Javaman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'R')ead it. What's to get back to you about?

[charliebrownout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'O')K - there's a lot on this board who know a helluva lot more than me about the stock market and investing, but where does wealth originate.

It's my belief that all wealth comes from the application of labour to the earths natural resources to create useful goods.

All the other layers basically mask the fact that the workers are the creators of wealth.

Anyone disagree?

[Javaman]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'P')lease sir can I do my tables instead?

Cheeky B*gger!

The credit is only needed because of the f*cked up system that permates all our industry including agribusiness.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Javaman', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'R')ead it. What's to get back to you about?

[Quinny]

We can't carry on the way we are, as much of the production is dependent on fossil fuel anyway!

I suppose from your name you don't believe that peak oil will have any impact on agriculture.

but ...

Where do you think the capital came from?

[Starvid]

New wealth/value is created where labour (more or less skilled manpower), capital (machines, infrastrucuture, financial capital etc) and land (that is, natural resources) converge.

As simple as that.

[Quinny]

Seems good to me!

[JPL]

I remember reading somewhere that wealth was a printed version of human labour.

Work you have done = cash in your pocket.
Work you have yet to do = credit.

Probably an old manual though. Damn marxists (grin)...

JP

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', 'O')K - there's a lot on this board who know a helluva lot more than me about the stock market and investing, but where does wealth originate.

It's my belief that all wealth comes from the application of labour to the earths natural resources to create useful goods.

All the other layers basically mask the fact that the workers are the creators of wealth.

Anyone disagree?

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('charliebrownout', '
')As for what is actually valuable in this life. I would say love, and the ability to live simply and in harmony with nature/your fellow man.

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Javaman', '
')You don't seem to recognize that without capital and modern technology, there won't be enough food. Human labor alone probably isn't sufficient.

So why don't you see if you can convince someone to provide the seeds, pesticides and fuel to the farmers. You can provide the fertilizer.

[Ayoob]

Wealth comes from agriculture, forestry, mining, and manufacturing. Everything else spreads the wealth around.

Workers in the agriculture, forestry, mining, and manufacturing industries don't tend to make a lot of money, though. This is a very tricky question and one you should think about a lot.

[MrBill]

G-Surfer hat geschrieben:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'S')o it is all just predestined. So if I were to say wealth is what you think it is and purely subjective this becomes more comprehensible. A beautiful sunset with little work to do is true wealth as the world is what it is and being a busy bee is simply a waste of precious life moments.

[MrBean]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '
')Sie koennen nicht Ihrem sonnenuntergang geniessen ohne etwas im magen; einem dach ueber kopf; und sicherheit fuer Ihre kinder. Alles muess in ordnung, dann gibts frieden und freiheit. Armut ist nicht befriedigung! Wir haben alle verantwortung. Fuer uns, fuer unsere familie, und fuer Die das haben weniger.

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBean', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MrBill', '
')Sie koennen nicht Ihrem sonnenuntergang geniessen ohne etwas im magen; einem dach ueber kopf; und sicherheit fuer Ihre kinder. Alles muess in ordnung, dann gibts frieden und freiheit. Armut ist nicht befriedigung! Wir haben alle verantwortung. Fuer uns, fuer unsere familie, und fuer Die das haben weniger.

[skeptik]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '
')All the other layers basically mask the fact that the workers are the creators of wealth.

Anyone disagree?

[MrBill]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('skeptik', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '
')All the other layers basically mask the fact that the workers are the creators of wealth.

Anyone disagree?

[Tyler_JC]

Wealth is the product of man’s capacity to think.