[k_semler]

Looks like an invasion is at hand. Time to get ready for war!



http://aztlan.net/salvatruchas_vs_minutemen.htm

Mara Salvatruchas to take on
the Minutemen vigilantes

by
Ernesto Cienfuegos
La Voz de Aztlan

Los Angeles, Alta California - March 1, 2005 - (ACN) It looks like there is going to be a "showdown at OK corral" on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. A high level leader of the Mara Salvatruchas, Ebner Anivel Rivera-Paz, has issued orders, from federal prison, to members of his extremely violent organization to teach the Minutemen vigilantes a lesson they will never forget, La Voz de Aztlan has learned.

The Mara Salvatruchas (MS-13) are a consequence of USA policies in Central America and are just another example of "the chickens coming home to roost". Its members are the sons of immigrants from El Salvador and other Central American countries that were forced to flee because of the CIA instigated war during the Reagan Administration that completely destroyed the physical, economic, social, religious and cultural infrastructure of the region. MS-13 was founded in Los Angeles by the offspring of the immigrants for protection. Later, many of the members were deported back to Central America where they expanded their operations and found fertile ground for the recruitment of new members among the hundreds of thousand of young people with no hope or future.

Today, the Mara Salvatruchas have grown immensely in numbers and their network has expanded through Mexico all the way to Canada. The extremely violent group controls large portions of the drug, stolen vehicle and immigrant smuggling operations [Salute] along the US/Mexico border and will not put up with clowns like the Minutemen vigilantes. The amateurish Minutemen may be in for a big surprise on April Fools Day and on the subsequent days that they plan to patrol the border with Mexico in Arizona. The Mara Salvatruchas are known to cut the "testicles" of their enemies and feed them to their vicious dogs. Other times they have cut the heads off their opponents to play football soccer with them. These are not people to mess around with.

There is a good probability that very few cowardly Minutemen vigilantes will show up on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona. The principal imbeciles organizing the event are known to be mere loudmouths. The morons think that they will be just having "some fun in the sun" hunting down defenseless Mexican migrant workers but instead may meet up with the devil himself. Satan has a very warped sense of humor and April 1st would be an excellent day to express it.

[Jack]

One cannot help but wonder how much worse things will get as the world slides into general recession. I suspect a lot worse.

[Chocky]

Geeze, I wouldn't like to be one of the minutemen. MS-13 sound almost unbelievably horrible.

[k_semler]

This is going to be a royal bloodbath. Here is some information on the gang known as MS-13: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7244879/site/newsweek/ . This following text was taken from thier, (The Miniuteman Project), SOP page, ( http://www.minutemanproject.com/SOP.html ):

[quote="Standard Operating Procedure For Miniuteman Project"]
You must hold these truths to be self evident. There are restrictions and guidelines that must be followed to an absolute.

You will abide by the laws of Arizona. If you choose to arm yourself, you will do so for the purpose of self defense only; you will never have to take action to defend yourself, for you will abide by the rules of no contact and no engagement. (By the way, no weapons are allowed in the Coronado National Park, but we will not be working there, so no need to go any further).

No weapons in the San Pedro Riparian area near the San Pedro River. There are plenty of hilltops on which to perch, spot and report. Most of the time the illegal aliens will not even know you are there, and you always have the advantage of the high ground.

If challenged, you will physically remove yourself from the situation. At this point 'tis better to retreat and preserve the ability to return and fight another day. The idea is for your sidearm to remain holstered for the duration of your visit. There will be absolutely no need to ever remove your firearm from its holster - not for cleaning, not for show-and-tell, not for any reason. By never removing the firearm from the holster, never keeping it chambered and always keeping the safety on and keeping your hands away from it, there can be no accidents. End of discussion. Remove the firearm from the holster for any reason, and your group members will likely send you on your way back home.

Stun guns, mace, pepper spray are alternatives for personal safety, but remember you have agreed to abide by a no contact, no engagement policy, so your safety will never be an issue. Right?

Absolutely you will not bring handcuffs our other devices used for the physical restraint of human beings. You will not be coming to Arizona to engage in philosophical discussions. You will not be coming to Arizona to challenge anyone, any idea, any person -- your challenge is with yourself. Your challenge will be, simplistically put, to behave yourself.

The mission is clear - Restraint, Responsibility and Character are the qualities that will guarantee success.

A word of advice: you will be held responsible, not just by law enforcement, but by the rules of our society, of mankind. You can be guaranteed that the first response towards any irrational or illegal behavior will come from within your group of compatriots. We will hold each other accountable. Any volunteer who even hints at illegal activity will be quickly ostracized from the mission and will be reported to law enforcement. You will be removed from the mission and will have forever shamed yourself -- you will not be allowed to shame the mission. Personal responsibility, accountability and temperament are the keys to success.

There has been much hand wringing, not just by the media but also from within the rank and file of potential volunteers.

Think about it this way. With the ideals explained in the previous paragraphs, anyone with the intention of stepping over the line will now realize they will not get away with it. Any possible racist, unstable or misguided element will now realize they will not succeed.

Why would anyone who does not agree with the tenets set forth even want to join the effort, knowing they will quickly be expelled from the activity? Those who disagree with the philosophy of this mission have now been dissuaded with caveats replete with everything they most likely despise. Those who don't agree are now making plans to stay home and cast doubt upon our efforts. Let them; for we are all better off without their participation, giving us yet another sense of gratification and desire for success.

The volunteers who have led the way are the good citizens who have joined the efforts of Civil Homeland Defense and who have succeeded in assisting the Border Patrol with locating over 5,000 people entering our country illegally. The volunteers have never made a mistake leading to harm or arrest by law enforcement. We know how to get the job done, so please defer to our experience as your ultimate guide. Our reputation speaks for itself. Facing tremendous opposition and skepticism, we have prevailed. Yet we now risk everything we have worked to achieve during the past two years. If one individual puts their selfish desires before the mandate of the mission, we all lose. We cannot allow such petty individual desires to ruin years and thousands of hours of effort to be wasted at the hands of one self-serving fool.

Volunteers will maintain a strict code of ethics and behavior: you will adhere to a no contact policy. Spot, report and avoid any contact with people entering our country illegally. No exceptions.

Why risk going to jail and ruining the mission by engaging a group of illegals? The time for that is not yet upon us. Remember, this is activism, yet it is symbolic at best. We know millions of illegals are here, thousands continue to come and nothing short of military intervention will cease the flow.

It's no big deal to let a group get away, for every group you locate; there are ten more who are getting through. Face it: there is not much else we can do. The idea is to become force-multipliers for Border Patrol. Our effort will be a shock and awe to the President and to Congressional leaders. If you are coming here because you harbor ill feelings toward the illegals, if you feel uncontrolled anger towards the government of Mexico or people who are fleeing economic disenfranchisement, you are advised to stay home.

Our efforts are not meant to stop illegals, our efforts are designed to send our elected officials a stiff reminder - they work for us first. Ignore us and we will continue to grow in numbers. We succeed this time and we will have thousands more who will follow our lead in future more interactive missions.

Experienced volunteers of Civil Homeland Defense (CHD) will be mentoring groups of novice border watchers who are here for the first time. CHD volunteers will consult, guide and share experience with new volunteers. CHD volunteers will continue to work in every way possible that will support the mission. Future efforts will likely involve the tracking and containment of groups of people who have entered our country illegally. For this mission, you will resist in every way confronting or attempting to make contact with illegals.

Every group of volunteers should have at least one video camera available and a person whose duty it is to operate it. The video camera is your insurance policy. Record any up-close encounter with the video camera. It is as much a tool for self defense as is your sidearm. If for any reason a group of people entering our country enters your area, you will politely wave, stand aside and watch them proceed on their journey. You may feel an overwhelming sense of frustration, but you will not act irrationally because of the feeling. Self restraint, discipline and personal responsibility must be uppermost in your mind. Be assured that every group you spot will be apprehended by the proper authorities. 99% of every group spotted by volunteers of CHD have been apprehended somewhere down the road. Your satisfaction comes from knowing you have located, reported and alerted the Border Patrol of illegal activity. The group will be caught and sent back across the border.

If a group or individual approaches you in need of assistance, provide it. Every group should have a first aid kit and extra water to offer a human being life- saving aid. Sometimes you may have a person come to you for protection or aid, offer them what they need, videotape everything. Assure them you mean them no harm and tell them you have contacted “La Migraâ€

[Yavicleus]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chocky', 'G')eeze, I wouldn't like to be one of the minutemen. MS-13 sound almost unbelievably horrible.

[Roy]

Not to be flippant, but I think MS13 may be biting off more than they can chew.

Something tells me that if they kill a few of the minutemen, that there may be a grass roots uprising by people living in the border states region who are sick and tired of illegal immigration and all of its attendant complications.

In the bigger picture, this sabre rattling by MS13 may be just what America needs to wake t up and close that southern border to illegal immigration. All the rhetoric about "defending the homeland" may have to be turned into real action against our neighbors to the south. I don't advocate aggressive military action. Rather just an enforced closing of that border.

It will be interesting to see if the mainstream media turns this into a non-event like the refinery explosion, or if they blow it all out of proportion like the Schiavo case. My guess is that they'll ignore it for as long as they can.

Interesting times ahead indeed.

[SidneyTawl]

Yes, it could wake up America, though I think America is awake on this, but to "busy" and in the back of Joe Suburbans mind he knows he is getting some great deals on lawn care, maids, cheap source of day labor and other such tasks, to really think about it.

I think an "incident" could also be used to shut down the minutemen post haste by the current administration that does not support the action. No lose situation for them if "it" happens.

[seldom_seen]

Check out this picture of the ruthless "El Chango" from their website:



Are those supposed to be tatoos on his arm and back? Now I'm no photoshop expert but I could do a better job than that.
Looks like the aztlan.net site is struggling a bit in the propaganda dept.

[k_semler]

I agree, it is either very fresh brandings, carvings, or a Microsoft Paint job. Looks too crude to be a tattoo to me.

[SidneyTawl]

I was thinking more like burn scars.

Branding

[seldom_seen]

The pixelated edges of the lettering make it undeniably a poor attempt at using the "emboss" filter of photoshop or some paint program.

Now if they would have feathered the edges a bit, reduced the opacity a tad, it might be somewhat more believeable. The guy in the picture is probably some peace loving recluse that lives in the jungles of guatemala.

[Daculling]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Yavicleus', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Chocky', 'G')eeze, I wouldn't like to be one of the minutemen. MS-13 sound almost unbelievably horrible.

[sklump]

Meh. Sounds like they're just horning in on the .Dark Alliance action.

Unfortunately, the US can't very well shut down the border because it's a vital cash cow for the alphabet organizations and (depending how paranoid one is) Wall Street.

Perhaps it might be cheaper to start with the best-off Central American republic [Costa Rica, I think?], and plough a tonne of effort into it to turn it into a prosperous democracy, so it could act as a better, closer magnet than the US South.

[KiddieKorral]

Check the dates on the article...

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'L')os Angeles, Alta California - March 1, 2005 - (ACN) It looks like there is going to be a "showdown at OK corral" on April 1st in Tombstone, Arizona.

[pea-jay]

Well, almost 2 months later and I have yet to hear about any skirmishes.
In fact I have heard almost nothing on the minutemen thing other than most everyone is behaving themselves.

The showdown if you ask me is all hype.