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Bunkers and the bunker mentality re: issue of peak oil

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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby TWilliam » Thu 09 Oct 2008, 20:27:30

Why do I get the feeling this headline's going to be getting recycled a lot in the coming weeks... Dow plunges 679 to fall to lowest level in 5 years$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')NEW YORK (AP) — Stocks plunged Thursday, sending the Dow Jones industrial average down 679 points — more than 7 percent — to its lowest level in five years. Stocks took a nosedive after a major credit-rating agency said it might cut its rating on General Motors and Ford, further rattling investors already fretting over the impact of tight credit on the economy.

The Standard & Poor's 500 index also fell more than 7 percent.

The declines came on the one-year anniversary of the closing highs of the Dow and the S&P. The Dow has lost 5,585 points, or 39.4 percent, since closing at 14,164.53 on Oct. 9, 2007. It's the worst run for the Dow since the nearly two-year bear market that ended in December 1974 when the Dow lost 45 percent. The S&P 500, meanwhile, is off 655 points, or 41.9 percent, since recording its high of 1,565.15.

U.S. stock market paper losses totaled $872 billion Thursday and the value of shares over all has tumbled a stunning $8.33 trillion since last year's high. That's based on figures measured by the Dow Jones Wilshire 5000 Composite Index, which tracks 5,000 U.S.-based companies' stocks and represents almost all stocks traded in America.

Note the item I highlighted in bold. The DOW has dropped nearly as much in ONE year as it did in TWO years during the '73-'74 bear...
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby yesplease » Thu 09 Oct 2008, 21:59:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', 'T')he DOW has dropped nearly as much in ONE year as it did in TWO years during the '73-'74 bear...
The DOW has dropped nearly as much in ONE year as it did as it did in ONE week during the '87 crash...
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Roccland » Thu 09 Oct 2008, 22:45:49

500 MPH into a brick wall - me
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Newfie » Thu 09 Oct 2008, 23:09:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('doomlover666', 'I')t is a truly blessed day, with the market taking a huge dump. I finally get to see the baby boomers eat their sh*t pie they created. Their retirement accounts down, their home values down, god thank you so much for this day.

Ageism, sheesh! Ancient news.

Baby boomers were once call Hippies and Flower Children and were against the war (Vietnam) that their forefathers had inflicted against them.

Your generation will be a sack of stuff in its own day, when that comes. It's like the old lament about "children today....." and "In my day...) All nonsense. We are all the same if put in the same circumstances at the same stage of life.

You just lack perspective. You'll see, someday.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby AlCzervik » Thu 09 Oct 2008, 23:52:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('doomlover666', 'I')t is a truly blessed day, with the market taking a huge dump. I finally get to see the baby boomers eat their sh*t pie they created. Their retirement accounts down, their home values down, god thank you so much for this day.

Have fun when mom and dad move in with you, bro.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby doomlover666 » Fri 10 Oct 2008, 02:49:12

The reason why they were called hippie's and flower children, is because they were a bunch of spoiled little bit*hes who were hopped up on drugs in the 60's. Then in the 70's when they run out of daddy's money, they sold out on the idea of love and peace, got a divorce and became the selfish consuming dirtballs we know today. Oh by the way my parents rock, I would take a bullet for them. I would be a little pissed, but I would take it.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Cid_Yama » Fri 10 Oct 2008, 03:20:07

Right on, Newfie.

But at least we had critical thinking skills and weren't faced with the end of the world.

Most of their generation won't stand a chance. Those that survive will grow from the experience.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Newfie » Fri 10 Oct 2008, 07:52:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'R')ight on, Newfie. But at least we had critical thinking skills and weren't faced with the end of the world. Most of their generation won't stand a chance. Those that survive will grow from the experience.

I dunno Cid. My "church" is a bunch of left leaning liberal do gooders. lotsa Drs., Lawyers, and academics. All eligible for 55+ only living. Most live in the hive (center city apartments) and buzz back and forth in eco friendly cars or the bus.

So the coffee maker goes off. The circuit breaker has popped and needs to be reset. So they come and get me to reset it. There are 4 or 5 men, my friends, and they all want to look over my shoulder to see how its done!

Cid, if it had rained I would have drowned standing there with my mouth agog, struck dumb. How in the world do you get a PhD without knowing how to reset a circuit breaker?

I'm trying to start a monthly movie group open to the public. I want to show "How Cuba survived Peak Oil." The leader (read Minister) asks me. "So, what is this Peak Oil stuff anyway?"

AAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

A few get it. Most think I'm just a depressive nut case. At work, with my engineer friends, much better.

My explanation is that most people live in a magical world. They don't expect to understand so they don't evaluate. No analysis.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby manu » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 05:25:49

It's all coming down in the next two months. Have a Happy New Year!
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Narz » Mon 20 Oct 2008, 06:03:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'I')t's all coming down in the next two months. Have a Happy New Year!

Uh-huh. If it's all coming down how 'bout you cut me a check (or paypal) for your life savings. Seeing as it's all coming down and all. :evil:
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby manu » Sat 15 Nov 2008, 05:45:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'I')t's all coming down in the next two months. Have a Happy New Year!

Uh-huh. If it's all coming down how 'bout you cut me a check (or paypal) for your life savings. Seeing as it's all coming down and all. :evil:


I don't use checks. Just because the economy is crashing why would I send you anything? Expect the worst just before the New Year. I will send you some greeting though. Have a nice and Happy New Year!
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Narz » Sat 15 Nov 2008, 14:19:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'I')t's all coming down in the next two months. Have a Happy New Year!

Uh-huh. If it's all coming down how 'bout you cut me a check (or paypal) for your life savings. Seeing as it's all coming down and all. :evil:


I don't use checks. Just because the economy is crashing why would I send you anything?

To show your dedication to your beliefs.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('manu', 'E')xpect the worst just before the New Year. I will send you some greeting though. Have a nice and Happy New Year!

I will. 2009 will be my best year yet. :)

BTW, mods should move this thread to "out of this world".
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby yesplease » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 16:17:57

Look, if people just keep on repeating the world is gonna end tomorrow, they'll be right sooner or later. :-D
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby copious.abundance » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 21:56:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'R')eally folks... Read these two pages on AIG: TF Now you understand why I said your FICO means squat...and you should buy food.

For all you morally superior fvcks who think a 750 is going to do you any good, Write it on the back of a match book - grab your last loaf of bread and smugly enjoy your own personal fade to black.

Well it's been 2 months since rocc posted this, and when I went to the supermarket today there was still plenty of bread on the shelves. :)
Stuff for doomers to contemplate:
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1190117.html#p1190117
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1193930.html#p1193930
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1206767.html#p1206767
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Armageddon » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 22:25:30

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('OilFinder2', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'R')eally folks... Read these two pages on AIG: TF Now you understand why I said your FICO means squat...and you should buy food.

For all you morally superior fvcks who think a 750 is going to do you any good, Write it on the back of a match book - grab your last loaf of bread and smugly enjoy your own personal fade to black.

Well it's been 2 months since rocc posted this, and when I went to the supermarket today there was still plenty of bread on the shelves. :)



If you can't see that things around you are coming apart at the seams, you are one dumb mofo. The Titanic didn't sink immediately after it hit the iceberg, it had to take on enough water before it sank.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby copious.abundance » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 22:33:50

Yes, we all know the economy is getting bad. But rocc told us to stock up on food - and yet, there is still plenty of bread on the shelves at the supermarket.
Stuff for doomers to contemplate:
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1190117.html#p1190117
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1193930.html#p1193930
http://peakoil.com/forums/post1206767.html#p1206767
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby smallpoxgirl » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 22:48:28

Poor rocc. He's probably going to get bored and lonely and come out of his bunker just about the time things get bad.
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Sifting through the ashes every day
What we thought would never end
Now is nothing more than a memory
The way things were before
I lost my way" - OCMS
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby dinopello » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 22:53:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'P')oor rocc. He's probably going to get bored and lonely and come out of his bunker just about the time things get bad.


Hopefully he has Netflix. And, maybe a good Chinese restaurant that delivers.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Ferretlover » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 22:59:05

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'P')oor rocc. He's probably going to get bored and lonely and come out of his bunker just about the time things get bad.

Reminds me of a Twilight Zone or Outer Limits or One Step Beyond storyline where a man built a fallout shelter. When he was sure that missiles were about to be launched, he tried to get his family to get into the shelter, but they refused.
When the man determined that the initial dose of radiation had subsided enough for him to leave, he checked his equipment dials to check the level. He couldn't understand why the levels had not gone down.
It's not until the end of the program when you see his wife and child standing outside at a huge cement mound/memorial. You see, the area over the man's shelter had been cemented over.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Armageddon » Sun 16 Nov 2008, 23:21:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', 'P')oor rocc. He's probably going to get bored and lonely and come out of his bunker just about the time things get bad.

If he sees his shadow will than mean 6 more weeks of doom and gloom ?
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