John Walling Heirs

by **DaGrizz** » Wed 23 Mar 2005, 21:32:47

Are rising oil prices really the result of a group called the Walling Heirs getting ready to take a few of the MAJOR OIL companies back to TEXAS court?? Or is it really from OPEC?? Did anyone hear of this lawsuit?? I hear it's gonna be HUGE!!....

by **boilingleadbath** » Wed 23 Mar 2005, 21:40:21

Seuing a oil co.? On what grounds, and with what lawyer?

by **DaGrizz** » Wed 23 Mar 2005, 21:44:39

This is the web site addy for the Wallings www.wallingheirs.net

by **DaGrizz** » Thu 24 Mar 2005, 21:46:06

Why isn't any news organization reporting on this Walling Deal???? What are they affraid of? Or who are they affraid of?? [smilie=hmh.gif]

by **MarkR** » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 12:32:18

They've left it a bit late haven't they?

The case might have been a tiny bit stronger, if they'd brought it at the appropriate time - about 150 years ago.

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:27:36

I think I heard something about this in the early morning hours of a radio news update on CBS a few days ago!! About the gas prices being so high due to an upcoming lawsuit the Oil Companies are going to be facing.

After reading some of the information on the website, www.wallingheirs.net it looks like Wallings have been fighting for many years but this time it looks like the Oil Companies are getting backed into a corner.

This infuriates me because I'm sure the reason we are having to pay such high gas prices is so they can pay these Walling people a settlement to kill this lawsuit off!

Whoever these Walling people are will probably end up with a HUGE settlement to keep this quite. The oil companies aren't going to want this in the news like the Enron scandal.

Someone should report this to the news stations so the public will know what is going on!!

by **entropyfails** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:46:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Boiling', '
')This infuriates me because I'm sure the reason we are having to pay such high gas prices is so they can pay these Walling people a settlement to kill this lawsuit off!

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 00:52:37

Well, I can only imagine how many Billions of dollars they owe these people since they have been pumping out of the massive East Texas Oil Fields since the early 1900s. That is not to mention the land and all the people who have been sold land that didn't rightfully belong to them to sell according to the website.

by **aahala** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 10:56:32

The Walling thing is bogus.

You will notice most of the links say "under construction".

You will notice "Memberships currently require an initial donation from $350 to $1,200.00 and a $15 per month donation to a $75.00 yearly donation per membership".

You will notice there's a page of surnames, listing more than 3,000, from
a man who had 11 children at the time of his death in 1841 -- it's only mathematically possible for there to be that many heirs and remember,
only female descendants who marry can add additional surnames.

Whoever is running this is after money, but it's not from the oil companies but from suckers to pay them to be involved.

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 11:31:56

If you are correct, then why did CBS run it on their radio news in the middle of the night? What information, other than your opinion, do you have that shows it is "bogus"? We might all be surprised, time will tell.

by **aahala** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 12:07:48

Boiling, look at the site as thoroughly as I have. There is also a
thing in there that the $1,200 fee will be fully refunded in 54 months
with "cashable vouchers", a marketing scam if there ever was one.

As far as the media story, so what. Just because something appears
on TV or radio doesn't make it true. A year or so ago, we had many
stories about how we could protect our family from terrorist attacks
with plastic and duct tape.

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 12:51:07

Sometimes we need to look "outside the box". If you are of the opinion that this is a "marketing scam" you will find all kinds of little quirps to justify your belief. That doesn't make it true.

Obviously from what I gathered from the website the fees are for legal costs to fight the oil companies. Legal actions do not come free you know.

Read the newspaper articles under the "Walling Trail". Better yet, read the entire area under the "Walling Trail. I did! There is a lot of documentation there that shows they have been in battle over this for many years. This lawsuit may open a "Pandora's Box" and expose a lot of things oil companies does not want known.

Like I said earlier, time will tell. I am open minded about it and it is highly interesting any way and I will watch it very closely.

by **aahala** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 13:58:13

If you go to the site, and click the first page on the left, it reads

"Who are the John Walling Coordinating Committee? We are the direct descendants of John Walling Sr. who served in the Spanish American War and was honorably discharged and received one league and one labor of land for his service. "

How would this be possible for a man who they claim died in 1841? :razz:

He would have been dead more than 50 years before the Spanish American War started.

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 14:58:25

If you are of the opinion that this is a "marketing scam" you will find all kinds of little quirps to justify your belief. That doesn't make it true.

Thank you aahala, I think I will do my own investigating and watch it myself to come to my own conclusions. Any of those documents shown on the "Walling Trail" on the website are easy enough to verify.

by **alpha480v** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 18:42:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aahala', 'I')f you go to the site, and click the first page on the left, it reads

"Who are the John Walling Coordinating Committee? We are the direct descendants of John Walling Sr. who served in the Spanish American War and was honorably discharged and received one league and one labor of land for his service. "

How would this be possible for a man who they claim died in 1841? :razz:

He would have been dead more than 50 years before the Spanish American War started.

by **DaGrizz** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 19:16:48

aahala the reason for the links not working is because the Walling Heirs had to go to a more secure site due to the infiltration of the oil companies getting on the site.and havent been able to get everything on tract yet !!the person running the website is also doing a lot of investigating to get this to court, another thing The other Walling names appearing are POTENTIAL cases also when there is enough info to be put up there it will be. The site was built for the future!!As far as it being a SCAM the voucher will get you your money back in case of a loss!!This case is HUGE it will take a lot of MOney to fight this so I applaude the marketing plan thats in effect!!

by **Boiling** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 23:16:53

I also heard that once this gets on a roll, we will learn about how a lot of land, mineral and oil rights were illegally taken from the early land owners of Texas in the 1800s. Rumor has it that this is where Exxon got it's start under the name "Humble Oil Company".

Do a search under Humble Oil Company, started in Houston Texas. Wonder how they got that land and mineral rights? It would be good to learn the history of all those dealings and see how many of them are on the up and up!

by **aahala** » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 23:55:46

From that top left link:
"The John Walling Heirs Coordinating Committee was formed
in 1991 to represent the interests of the descendants of
John Walling Sr. and his children. The Coordinating
Committee is comprised of the lead plaintiff, Bea Thedford. . ."

http://notes.ire.org/IREResources.nsf/0 ... enDocument
The woman mentioned on this page is not named, but you will notice
at the bottom "Bea Thedford"

So I searched for the Oklahoma Securities site.
"Walling Heirs Association " ordered to stop selling memberships by
the Oklahoma Securities Commission(Beatrice J. Thedford named)
http://www.securities.state.ok.us/Enfor ... _Order.pdf
and the permanent order:
http://www.securities.state.ok.us/Enfor ... 0Order.pdf

by **Boiling** » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 14:43:07

These documents show me nothing whatsoever regarding whether or not the Walling's land and mineral rights were taken illegally!! All these documents show are that the Wallings have had many people try to stop them from being able to move forward with their case. That is what the recorded message on the radio section of their website clearly states. www.wallingheirs.net Go to the website under radio button to the left and listen to their message regarding how they state that many entities will stop at nothing to see that their case never gets heard by the public or the courts.

From what I understand, the people who have bought into this are donating their funds and are doing so in order to help fund the legal cost in righting a wrong and also to share in the possibility of receiving a large sum of money when the case is won. Obviously it is their choice to join or not to join.

I checked into this farther after reading your post and was informed that the Securities Issue you have posted here was ultimately dismissed. I will see if I can find out any thing further regarding that issue.

Rumor also has it that KWTV in Oklahoma City was owned and/or controlled Oil Companies.

by **maverickdoc** » Mon 28 Mar 2005, 14:45:08

http://news.yahoo.com/p/v?u=/ap_av/2005 ... f=53746353

John Walling Heirs

John Walling Heirs

Um... yeah... whatever...

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