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')If more people are becoming "mentally ill", it makes me wonder what IS mental illness?
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Re: Coincidence?
by Ludi » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 15:22:39
For many people it is a reaction to stress. Even people who have a genetic predisposition to mental illness may never exhibit troublesome symptoms in the absence of stressful life events.
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Re: Coincidence?
by Pops » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 15:40:22
My wife of near 30 years is Susan and she has put up with some stuff.
As far as mental illness is concerned, forgive me for being callous but for every new drug there seems to be a disease. As Ludi says, lacking anything bad happening in ones' world things are good, but what percentage of the world's population has things good?
I know Ludi, just expressing my opinion.
As far as mental illness is concerned, forgive me for being callous but for every new drug there seems to be a disease. As Ludi says, lacking anything bad happening in ones' world things are good, but what percentage of the world's population has things good?
I know Ludi, just expressing my opinion.
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Re: Coincidence?
by Pops » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 15:46:02
The legitimate object of government, is to do for a community of people, whatever they need to have done, but can not do, at all, or can not, so well do, for themselves -- in their separate, and individual capacities.
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Re: Coincidence?
by Ludi » Mon 13 Oct 2008, 15:47:35
It's ok Pops, to an extent I agree with you. I won't go on with this subject because it is too large and would derail this thread. Suffice to say there's a difference between "feeling blue" or "worried" and not being able to get out of bed or leave the house. There's a difference between feeling poorly and being nonfunctional. Anyway... 
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Re: Coincidence?
by ReverseEngineer » Tue 14 Oct 2008, 03:38:47
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
')It doesn't need a Rule Giver?
')It doesn't need a Rule Giver?
It needs rules. It doesn't need a giver.
So then your postulate is that these rules just pop out of thin air? Possible of course, but it seems as unlikely to me as a bunch of monkeys given all eternity typing out the complete works of Shakespeare. You can't prove either hypothesis as absolutely true from this reference point though, so you have to live with the uncertainty involved. I'm just making my best guess based on the fact I haven't ever seen it as possible that you can make Something from Nothing. Since the Universe is Something, it can't come from NOTHING. I'll postulate a God to be the Something that the Universe and its rules came from.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', ' ')God implies consciousness. Anthropomorphizing. If there is a god then it is some kind of super-strings interference pattern outside of the universe that causes weird bubbles of which our universe is one. I don't think it is any more of a consciousness than a wave lapping up at a beach.
Absolutely, God implies consciousness, but that is not anthropomorphizing. Anthropomorphizing would be saying God thinks just like People do, but I don't say that at all. Regardless, you still have to deal with the fact Human Beings have consciousness and are self-aware and have sentience. So that in itself means that any Super Strings Interference Pattern which engendered this itself might have consciousness. If it does, then that SSIP is God.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '
')That's what drives a lot of scientists to do things like study snowflakes their entire life. If you approach it from a scientific angle it is far more rewarding than the one-stop-shop of God. Once you start believing, then there is no use for further research. What's the point? God answers all your curiosity. If that mindset were dominant, then you wouldn't be able to type on a computer over the internet today.
Not at all. Most if not all of the best Physicists contemplate on the existence of God, certainly Einstein did. Contemplating on God's Existence does not stop you from investigating, in fact it encourages further investigation in the mind of a good scientist, because you want to pin down exactly what God is and how this concept affects the things you examine. Your philosophy is actually anti-scientific, because you reject out of hand the notion that there is a God, and you don't question and research your postulate. You take it as a given.
I don't do that. I keep seeking the answers, and will do so until I no longer walk the earth. If I find them in some absolute form, trust me you will know about it. I won't just Part the Red Sea, I'll turn it all into High Test Gasoline. LOL. I'll also make sure you and your daughter have an inexaustible Prep supply to make it thru. Wish me luck in this Quest.
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