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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby gnm » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 11:28:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'o')h ...

and dollar getting DESTROYED!


What is your comparison? I mean, golds off from its major highs and the dollar is up against the euro....

Frankly given the amount of money the fed is dumping on everything I'm surprised its as stable as it is... I'd expect gold at $2000 and rampant hyperinflation by now....

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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby yesplease » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 12:51:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gnm', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'o')h ...

and dollar getting DESTROYED!


What is your comparison? I mean, golds off from its major highs and the dollar is up against the euro....

Frankly given the amount of money the fed is dumping on everything I'm surprised its as stable as it is... I'd expect gold at $2000 and rampant hyperinflation by now....

-G
That's because, at least up until now, all the fed moves have been more or less deflationary. The hundreds of billions offered through the TAF/discount window/etc are only inflationary in terms of the loss they take on the low interest rates. That being said, bailing out retirement plans and the like will probably be inflationary. I don't see the dollar getting destroyed right now, but who knows. Maybe this is one of rocc's surefire bets?
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby ColossalContrarian » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 13:05:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'd')ang - and i thought the "leave no banker behind" bailout was working this morning...

dow in the red again.

fed to buy more shlT sandwiches...

all is good.


The fed keeps buying shit sandwiches and it appears everyone else is saying “you can buy your shit sandwiches and eatum too, we’re getting the F’ out’a here…. adios sucka’s!!!
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby Homesteader » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 13:48:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Spanktron9', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TWilliam', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'I')f "it's bunker time" why the fark do you care about the price of gold? You evolved some enzyme that lets you digest the stuff?

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Ummm...yeah

Global markets crash and gold up $30.


Why Rocc, you sound as if you believe that there are invisible hands at work?


The invisible hand is working, and it is in up to the elbow. To bad for us it is attached to a proctologist.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 13:55:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'd')ang - and i thought the "leave no banker behind" bailout was working this morning...

dow in the red again.

fed to buy more shlT sandwiches...

all is good.


Hey Rocc, Morgan Stanley down 40% from this morning. This makes the crash of 1929 look like a tea party.

What's you take - does it survive until, well, Wednesday or Thursday, or are you already in your bunker eating honey and no longer care?
It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby ritter » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 14:40:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DantesPeak', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'd')ang - and i thought the "leave no banker behind" bailout was working this morning...

dow in the red again.

fed to buy more shlT sandwiches...

all is good.


Hey Rocc, Morgan Stanley down 40% from this morning. This makes the crash of 1929 look like a tea party.

What's you take - does it survive until, well, Wednesday or Thursday, or are you already in your bunker eating honey and no longer care?


I’ve been around the site awhile, heavy reader just not a heavy poster. When Dante starts the doom along with Rocc, it’s time to really start paying attention. Even Zardoz is coming along to the party. It’s looking like the canary is dead and getting cold. As scary as this all is, it is terribly fascinating to see so much predicted coming to pass.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby roccman » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 16:19:23

Wow

Don't know how much longer I'll be posting.

Good luck.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby gnm » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 16:26:53

I'll be happy if my solar thermal panels make it to me first. Two more weeks, two more weeks...

I think I'll go start a batch of beer....

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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby Arsenal » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 16:28:36

Dow down another 500 points today. Fun fun..

I think I am going to pick some scotch on my way home.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby AlexdeLarge » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 16:42:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Arsenal', 'D')ow down another 500 points today. Fun fun..

I think I am going to pick some scotch on my way home.


Makersmark..............while I can still afford it !!! Enjoy it while you can people. I am not looking forward to waking with the sun and plowing the back forty until dark!

Money for nuthing, and my checks for free.......I want my MTV :(
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby Roccland » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:07:10

Bad sushi...

again

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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby JJ » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 21:14:39

hang seng down 878
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby nobodypanic » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:03:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'h')ang seng down 878

985.

the world markets are in free-fall. i don't see anything stopping the plummet.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby Narz » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:05:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'N')arz liquidated his honey a few months ago. I made him a fair offer...he declined.

I got twice as much as you offered.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'T')ruth is - the guy is flat ass broke - is selling the small amount of preps to float from one living room floor to the next.

Silly paranoid, you don't know me. I tell mofos a few things online & all of a sudden they think they know me, where I'm from & where I'm going.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'H')e said that out of spite and stupidity.

No. I simply pointed out that what you said didn't make sense.

You're the spiteful one, biatch. Everyone is growing weary of your rants & you're striking out in frustration left & right. You can dish it out but you can't take it.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'I')f it is bunker time why sell your honey Narz.?

You're the one who said "it's bunker time" smart guy.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'S')o why Narz were you selling your honey in April?

1) it was too heavy on the bike
2) you needed lunch money
3) it is a useless product
Wouldn't fit in the car. It's a great product. I saved one bucket of the stuff & still use it. :)

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'A')nd yesterday you were heading up to Pstarrville...
BS. You're just making stuff up - quote me!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'i')n april you said you were going to eastern canada (about 4,000 miles difference).
I talk about places I'm considering going. Mostly I let my fingers doing the walking. Nice to know I have a secret admirer who follows me every whim.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', 'D')o you even have a plan...or do you move from one pot farm to the next?
I have a plan. But I don't talk about my specific plans online much anymore.

Why does it upset you so much that I'm open & curious enough to be willing to expose my situation to this forum?

However much money I have or don't have, wherever I've been or haven't been, whatever I've talked about or not talked about - why are throwing this in my face? Just cause I made a little joke? And you wonder why everyone tells you to take some chill pills. Personally I'd recommend meditation though. Stop & take a breath before you spend half an hour searching my posts for pictures of my honey & a list of places I've lived (not even accurate).

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'W')ow

Don't know how much longer I'll be posting.

Good luck.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby roccman » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:13:44

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('nobodypanic', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'h')ang seng down 878

985.

the world markets are in free-fall. i don't see anything stopping the plummet.


Just saw somewhere the Fed has enacted Emergency Powers.

Is that like a lite saber?
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby yesplease » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:27:00

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ritter', 'W')hen Dante starts the doom along with Rocc, it’s time to really start paying attention. Even Zardoz is coming along to the party.

Word. The end is nigh, like I said in another thread (for the same reason).
The end of what?
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby pedalling_faster » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:29:40

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', '
')COLLAPSE
COLLAPSE
COLLAPSE!!!!!!!!!!


if the various collapse change communities had an intramural athletic league, that would be a good image for the jerseys.

the news items at this point are an onslaught, a deluge. F'ing ICELAND ! bank has been nationalized or something. the synchronicity of all these events, this is different. for a year it was something major every 2 or 3 months. now it's been something MAJOR major every few days since some time in September. the week the Fed announced the $700 billion whatever, the next week WaMu is seized on a Thursday, it's been non-stop like that for 3 weeks.

if you had a graph of events like the 1987 Stock Market Crash plotted against time, it would be obvious that there's been a point of inflection starting sometime around mid September where the curve goes like the Fed's non-borrowed reserves curve
http://research.stlouisfed.org/fred2/series/BOGNONBR

just going off a cliff. so i think the "it's bunker time" statement is accurate, this is the beginnning of the time when we will hear about food not being delivered because someone didn't have money for truck fuel, because their bank collapsed.

i think one of the things that makes doom appealing is the acknowledgement in the physical universe of what many people have suspected, that the version of American capitalism based on fraud and debt doesn't work very well. or perhaps you could say, f*cking doesn't work. it's a little like the moment in the Matrix when Morpheus gives the spiel to Neo and offers him the red pill blue pill. i forget which pill is the illusion and which pill is reality. so now everybody who may have tried to warn their family about this storm, might be able to have a conversation about the storm.

but there's one thing. this is still pre-Peak Oil. the 2005 peak was superceded by a 2007 peak. maybe the peak will turn out to be the period of time starting 3 weeks ago.

most companies haven't even announced their 3rd quarter results. Bank of America has reported a 68% drop in income for the 3rd quarter, all those service fees they charge us have not been sufficient to maintain profits.
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to provide narrative, Bernanke has come out with another quotable quote.Crisis could prolong economic pain

i think that's a very safe statement 8O an economic crisis will prolong economic pain. and he's one of the smarter people in the Bush administration. he is the cavalry, or the head of the cavalry. he's General Custer in the war on economic collapse.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby threadbear » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:42:51

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JJ', 'h')ang seng down 878


Link?
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby DantesPeak » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:43:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'm')ost companies haven't even announced their 3rd quarter results. Bank of America has reported a 68% drop in income for the 3rd quarter, all those service fees they charge us have not been sufficient to maintain profits.


That's a point I've been making for some weeks - where are the third quarter earnings? Has no company lost money lending to AIG, Lehman, and F & F?

I see a dam of deceit about to break. In retrospect, AIG, Lehman, and F & F, will appear to be great deceivers, because it's impossible to believe anything they did lead to them going bankrupt overnight.

Anyway, B of A finally sold $10 billion in stock at $22 late today, about $10 and 30% less than yesterday. The price of holding back the truth is steep.
It's already over, now it's just a matter of adjusting.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Unread postby yesplease » Tue 07 Oct 2008, 22:45:03

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('yesplease', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Shannymara', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ritter', 'W')hen Dante starts the doom along with Rocc, it’s time to really start paying attention. Even Zardoz is coming along to the party.

Word. The end is nigh, like I said in another thread (for the same reason).
The end of what?
Life as we know it. Good riddance, as far as consumer culture, anyway.
It's always the end of life as we know it. ;) By consumer culture do you mean consumerism?
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