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THE Lighting Thread (merged)
by Pops » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 10:15:09
Like OldSproket said, defiantly don’t use a “Colemanâ€
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by PlannerBee » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 11:50:34
[quote="Pops"]Like OldSproket said, defiantly don’t use a “Colemanâ€
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by Pops » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 12:25:40
Well, “coal oilâ€
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by PlannerBee » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 16:18:50
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Doly', 'M')aybe I'm missing something here, but doesn't the oil for lamps come as well from... well, oil? Why do you expect to be able to use oil lamps but not electricity?
Doly, you are assuming that it will be total catastrophe. It could be but what if it isn't? What if it slowly goes downhill instead of Mad Max all at once? I have a budget now that permits me to get a few things that will make living a wee bit easier while it spirals out of control. The last thing I want is to be a part of the problem by not preparing for ANYTHING. The police and such will have enough on their hands as things deteriorate without people who could have done a little prep work running about trying to get what they think they might need. Besides, where I am I get power outages now and with the big snow storm coming in tonight, an oil lamp could be useful.
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by pea-jay » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 16:32:43
I didn't see any discussion of this so far, but what kind of DIY fuels could one come up with to run a lamp. I know the kerosene won't go away all at once, but for the true sustainability arguement, what kind of fuels could one brew up that wouldnt be too volatile like gasoline or ethanol.
Would biodiesel fit the bill? Is there a bio-kerosene option. Soybean oil?
Would biodiesel fit the bill? Is there a bio-kerosene option. Soybean oil?
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Bio-diesel
by OldSprocket » Fri 25 Mar 2005, 21:44:14
Aladdin says use kerosene. Biodiesel would probably work fine. Anything too viscous won't go up the wick fast enough and the wick will burn down too fast.
Perhaps these lamps are more useful in the country than in the city.
I can take one to a shed where I haven't strung power lines. Many of my neighbors have them for the regular power outages.
I got my hanging Aladdin before I installed the solar electric here and was able to build into the evening in the winter instead of having to stop sawing at 4:30.
Perhaps these lamps are more useful in the country than in the city.
I can take one to a shed where I haven't strung power lines. Many of my neighbors have them for the regular power outages.
I got my hanging Aladdin before I installed the solar electric here and was able to build into the evening in the winter instead of having to stop sawing at 4:30.
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Re: Lamps
by NeoPeasant » Sun 27 Mar 2005, 15:09:55
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PlannerBee', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('NeoPeasant', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PlannerBee', 'W')hat kind of lighting is best inside a home that does not run on electricity. I am particularly interested in the kerosene types but am wondering if certain types use less kerosene that others, are some better shielded from the wind if you needed to go outside with it, etc. Pros and cons. Ideas and links for buying them?
How about wind up lighting other than a flashlight?
How about wind up lighting other than a flashlight?
You're kidding, right? Any REAL peak oiler knows we will simply all have to go to bed when the sun goes down and arise with the dawn.
You are part of the problem you know that? I know we have a true oil crisis but not one of us really knows how bad it will be starting when. It could just dwindle off and in that case I might like to have a little lighting or NEED it. If you don't have any good ideas then shut up!
Hey plannerbee,
Since you are acquiring things for post peak oil, I suggest you put a sense of humor on your list. Life will be tough, you'll need one. By the way, the "wink" emoticon on the end of my post meant don't take this seriously.
Here's a lighting idea. Get one of those LED lights you wear on your forehead and power it with NiMH batteries recharged from a small solar panel. That way you only have to light where you are looking. Super efficient. Stock spare unused rechargeables, I hear they have quite a long shelf life in their new unused state.
I have some of those and I also have some propane lanterns to use until my propane runs out. Lamps using gas and mantles sure seem to produce a much higher quality light than open flame lighting.
And perhaps a few decades from now, arranging our schedules around the hours of natural daylight may become rather important so we can conserve our energy for more critical things than lighting.
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