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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby Maddog78 » Fri 01 Aug 2008, 00:28:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'I') can see this happening with so many people in Alberta in the future. Here, $350,000 or so will buy you a small bungalow. However, you can get a considerably nicer home for $500,000. It's just hard for me to understand why it has to be so difficult for a person or persons to get into a small home. Imagine, even if you manage to save $30,000 for a downpayment, you're still mortgaging $320,000. It's just crazy. What's going to happen when the jobs aren't here anymore?


Wait till you see what happens out here in B.C. in the next few yrs.
Median price in Vancouver is now over $800,000. Who the hell is buying these things? We don't even have an oil economy going to support it like Alberta. Actually to answer my own question less and less people. Listings now at 20,000. This time last yr. , 12,000.
So many people are in denial. They'll keep going up they say.
Someone in my family just bought a house for 750,000 and have put another 80,000 or so into it. It will be worth 1 million in 3 yrs. he says. Dream on, I say. Good luck with that mortgage.
By this winter I expect prices will start down and then really decelerate. Go and read the Vancouver estate agent blogs.
They are holding open houses and literally no one is coming.
The dope growers can't buy all the houses.
The clock is ticking.
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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby threadbear » Fri 01 Aug 2008, 00:55:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Maddog78', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('WildRose', 'I') can see this happening with so many people in Alberta in the future. Here, $350,000 or so will buy you a small bungalow. However, you can get a considerably nicer home for $500,000. It's just hard for me to understand why it has to be so difficult for a person or persons to get into a small home. Imagine, even if you manage to save $30,000 for a downpayment, you're still mortgaging $320,000. It's just crazy. What's going to happen when the jobs aren't here anymore?


Wait till you see what happens out here in B.C. in the next few yrs.
Median price in Vancouver is now over $800,000. Who the hell is buying these things? We don't even have an oil economy going to support it like Alberta. Actually to answer my own question less and less people. Listings now at 20,000. This time last yr. , 12,000.
So many people are in denial. They'll keep going up they say.
Someone in my family just bought a house for 750,000 and have put another 80,000 or so into it. It will be worth 1 million in 3 yrs. he says. Dream on, I say. Good luck with that mortgage.
By this winter I expect prices will start down and then really decelerate. Go and read the Vancouver estate agent blogs.
They are holding open houses and literally no one is coming.
The dope growers can't buy all the houses.
The clock is ticking.


International organized crime based around dope IS boosting prices in Vancouver, because NOTHING else can explain the incredible run up in prices, other than people trying to launder money through real estate, bidding up prices. Add to that all the secondary players injecting cash, into the economy, and it's like pouring high octane gasoline on a market that was already over heating . In West Van, huge mansions run up the hill, built cheek by jowl. Ten thousand square feet, and larger! And nobody in sight. Half of them appear to be sitting empty. Posted around the neighbourhood are little signs that say, "If you see any suspicious activity, please phone Vancouver Police Dept." I feel like calling up the cops and saying, "I'd like to report what looks like a massive international money laundering operation!D", and then just list all of the houses in the neighbourhood. !! :lol: :lol:

You're right though. The dope buyers can't keep it all propped. And why would they want to hold on to empty houses that are dropping in value? They'll drop them like hot rocks, now that the market has turned. Besides the drug trade to the U.S has to be impacted by the strengthening Canadian dollar.
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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby MarkJ » Sat 02 Aug 2008, 16:11:09

We've donated time, materials and labor on a couple of charity builds only to have the owners lose their homes since they used them as collateral for home equity loans. Once the homes were rebuilt, the property taxes skyrocketed as well. As mentioned, some of these low income owners can't handle the costs of taxes, maintenance, repairs etc.

We helped rebuild another home after a fire, only to have the owner sell it for a large profit months later.

Many of the furnaces and boilers we've installed for heating assistance programs fail prematurely since the owners don't maintain them, let their basements flood or their boilers, boiler piping and water piping freezes/cracks/bursts when they run out of fuel or their utilities are shut off.
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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby PrairieMule » Sat 02 Aug 2008, 16:25:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'T')hey used the house as collateral on a $450,000 loan. Whatever they spent that money on looks like it was a total failure and now they're back to screwed. I wonder what the business was that lost them so much so quickly.


To quote Slim Pickens "How in the wide wide world of sports did this happen?". Seriously as a ex-employee of Countrywide home loans, I know for a a fact gift homes like Habitat for Humanity are forbidden to take any kind of equity loan on. It's considered predatory lending.

Good Lord, they must have had one snake of a mortgage broker.
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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby jbrovont » Sat 02 Aug 2008, 16:50:27

Excellent point. In order to make those loans, the broker would probably have to conceal that the house was a gift, and is probably in breach of contract, and possibly illegal as you suggest.

At the very least I'd expect they would owe the price of the house to the charity if they transfer title for cash.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PrairieMule', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('strider3700', 'T')hey used the house as collateral on a $450,000 loan. Whatever they spent that money on looks like it was a total failure and now they're back to screwed. I wonder what the business was that lost them so much so quickly.


To quote Slim Pickens "How in the wide wide world of sports did this happen?". Seriously as a ex-employee of Countrywide home loans, I know for a a fact gift homes like Habitat for Humanity are forbidden to take any kind of equity loan on. It's considered predatory lending.

Good Lord, they must have had one snake of a mortgage broker.
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Re: 'Extreme Makeover' house faces foreclosure

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Sat 02 Aug 2008, 19:50:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')construction business" = dice game gone bad

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Same with all of these other jokes.

Great thread. Nothing is better than seeing undeserving people suffer from their own consequences. While I support the Presidency of Obama over McCain (because of Iran and energy), I'll be deeply saddened when he's (s)elected because I'm sure he'll want a national Extreme Makeover program. He probably thinks a half million dollar home wasn't big enough.
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'Foreclosure Phil' Gramm - Mother Jones

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 21:28:42

Foreclosure Phil

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('David Corn', 'W')ho's to blame for the biggest financial catastrophe of our time? There are plenty of culprits, but one candidate for lead perp is former Sen. Phil Gramm. Eight years ago, as part of a decades-long anti-regulatory crusade, Gramm pulled a sly legislative maneuver that greased the way to the multibillion-dollar subprime meltdown. Yet has Gramm been banished from the corridors of power? Reviled as the villain who bankrupted Middle America? Hardly.

Now a well-paid executive at a Swiss bank, Gramm cochairs Sen. John McCain's presidential campaign and advises the Republican candidate on economic matters. He's been mentioned as a possible Treasury secretary should McCain win. That's right: A guy who helped screw up the global financial system could end up in charge of US economic policy. Talk about a market failure.


$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut Gramm's most cunning coup on behalf of his friends in the financial services industry...

...was a 262-page measure called the Commodity Futures Modernization Act. Written with the help of financial industry lobbyists...

...The act, he declared, would ensure that neither the sec nor the Commodity Futures Trading Commission (cftc) got into the business of regulating newfangled financial products called swaps—and would thus "protect financial institutions from overregulation" and "position our financial services industries to be world leaders into the new century."

It didn't quite work out that way


Wow, this article is so rich that I can hardly decide which sections of it to quote. They're all so good!

Phil Gramm had helped Ronald Reagan push through Reagan's trickle-down supply side economics tax policy that ushered in the era of Republican-sanctioned record deficits that we enjoy so much today. He later helped deregulate the Saving & Loan industry. What would we have done without him?

In 1999, Gramm helped pass the Gramm-Leach-Bliley Financial Services Modernization Act. This law allowed banks to act like investment houses. Using federally-guaranteed savings accounts, banks now could make risky commercial and real-estate loans. Go Phil!

I can't wait for The Onion to do a piece on Conservative Free Marketeer Phil Gramm. The Mother Jones article sounds almost like one but it's just relating the facts! :lol:
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Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby Sixstrings » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 04:32:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')INCINNATI (Reuters) - A 90-year-old Ohio woman, facing eviction from the home she has lived in for 38 years, shot and wounded herself this week, becoming a grim symbol of the U.S. home mortgage crisis.
Addie Polk was found lying on the floor of her home with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to her shoulder when police came to the home on Wednesday to serve an eviction notice, Akron police spokesman Lt. Rick Edwards said on Friday.
Polk survived the shooting and is being treated in a hospital.
It was the latest attempt by sheriff's deputies to evict Polk from her modest single-family home because she could not keep up with her mortgage. "It appears they're evicting her over her mortgage. She's lived in the house, the neighbors said, something like 38 years and in the last couple of years fell prey to some predatory lending company or financial institution," Edwards said.
Local news reports said deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30 times before Wednesday's shooting.
Home foreclosure rates are at record highs in the United States, in many cases because buyers with adjustable interest rates could not keep up with sharp increases in monthly payments. The foreclosure crisis has sparked a wider housing market downturn and is at the heart of the U.S. financial crisis.(Reporting by Andrea Hopkins; Editing by Peter Cooney)


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Very sad.. evidently the deputies had been making multiple attempts to evict her. The deputies who found her were there on another eviction attempt.

Things don't have to be this way..

What good are all our SUV's, McMansions, Ipod's, corn starch trash food, facebooks, googles and twitters when this is how we treat the most vulnerable among us?
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby oilluber » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 07:55:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Sixstrings', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')INCINNATI (Reuters) - A 90-year-old Ohio woman, facing eviction from the home she has lived in for 38 years, shot and wounded herself this week, becoming a grim symbol of the U.S. home mortgage crisis.

Addie Polk was found lying on the floor of her home with what appeared to be a self-inflicted gunshot wound to her shoulder when police came to the home on Wednesday to serve an eviction notice, Akron police spokesman Lt. Rick Edwards said on Friday.

Polk survived the shooting and is being treated in a hospital.

It was the latest attempt by sheriff's deputies to evict Polk from her modest single-family home because she could not keep up with her mortgage.

"It appears they're evicting her over her mortgage. She's lived in the house, the neighbors said, something like 38 years and in the last couple of years fell prey to some predatory lending company or financial institution," Edwards said.

Local news reports said deputies had tried to serve Polk's eviction notice more than 30 times before Wednesday's shooting.

Home foreclosure rates are at record highs in the United States, in many cases because buyers with adjustable interest rates could not keep up with sharp increases in monthly payments. The foreclosure crisis has sparked a wider housing market downturn and is at the heart of the U.S. financial crisis.

(Reporting by Andrea Hopkins; Editing by Peter Cooney)


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Very sad.. evidently the deputies had been making multiple attempts to evict her. The deputies who found her were there on another eviction attempt.

Things don't have to be this way..

What good are all our SUV's, McMansions, Ipod's, corn starch trash food, facebooks, googles and twitters when this is how we treat the most vulnerable among us?


gun control ??
More a sign of the easy availability of guns.
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby seazar » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 08:50:06

this has nothing to do with gun control - puhleeeezeee

this woman could have just as easily taken prescription drugs
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby alpha480v » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 08:58:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seazar', 't')his has nothing to do with gun control - puhleeeezeee

this woman could have just as easily taken prescription drugs





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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby eXpat » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 09:02:39

What does it has to do home foreclosures with Gun control?????? :evil:
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby Ludi » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 09:10:54

She was aiming the gun in the wrong direction!

Aim at the bankers. :x
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby Sys1 » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 09:12:00

She should have shot on the policemen before attempting to kill her.
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby eXpat » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 09:24:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'S')he was aiming the gun in the wrong direction!

Aim at the bankers. :x


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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby americandream » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 09:42:51

Guns, greed, the elderly facing eviction, taxpayers money being used to bail out champagne drinkers all adds up to a society that has lost its direction and sense of purpose. You are only here for a few decades. Then it's timeless infinite non-being. Surely this short experience of self should be a better one?
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby MarkJ » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 10:28:23

More Details HERE

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'C')ourt records show Polk took out a 30-year, 6.375 percent mortgage just four years ago for $45,620 with a Countrywide Home Loan office in Cuyahoga Falls. She took out a line of credit that same day for $11,380.

Her La Croix Avenue home was appraised by Summit County in 2004 at $31,230.

Following foreclosure this year, Polk's six-room, 101-year-old home was bought by Fannie Mae at sheriff's auction for $28,000
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby nobodypanic » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 10:35:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'H')er loan was forgiven

http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/evicti ... index.html

good. now do this a few hundred million times and the consumer will be able to start spending again.
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Re: Ohio woman, 90, attempts suicide after foreclosure

Unread postby IndigoMoon » Sat 04 Oct 2008, 12:06:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('jasonraymondson', 'H')er loan was forgiven
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/10/03/evicti ... index.html


I live in the Akron area. When this story first hit the local news, I cried. And then my immediate next thought was that this is just the beginning. How many more people will feel so totally hopeless that they will resort to attempting suicide? Worse yet, how many will attempt it in the hopes of having their loan forgiven also? :(
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