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The worlds going to end soon!! Never mind, what's for tea?

Discussions related to the physiological and psychological effects of peak oil on our members and future generations.

What is the best skill to learn for the coming post oil society?

Poll ended at Sat 17 Jul 2004, 11:42:04

farming
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gun/knife/staff/martial arts fighting
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ostrich impersonation
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Total votes : 29

The worlds going to end soon!! Never mind, what's for tea?

Unread postby still » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 11:42:04

Hi,
I did a little straw poll at work today. I sent an email to members of a 'trivia' mailing list asking them if they had heard of Hubert's Peak.

So far I have had 8 replies, not one person had heard of it.

2 people said they'd 'googled' but neither seemed to recognise the importance.

Tell me, is this a typical level of ignorance and apathy?

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Unread postby Barbara » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 12:02:06

Just a typo.
Tell them to google "Hubbert's peak". :lol:
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Unread postby _sluimers_ » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 12:09:20

No. I can't remember who came up with that chart. Colin Campbell maybe.

But the reason most people don't know is simply because most people find things that happen now and here the most interesting thing in the world.
The further away it is in time and space, the less attention it is payed on.
That's also why most people who know Hubbert's peak here, found out this century. So the closer we move to Hubbert's peak, the more people know about it and are concerned about it.
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Unread postby _sluimers_ » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 12:12:44

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No. I can't remember who came up with that chart. Colin Campbell maybe.

But I remember seeing a chart of an oil geolegist about the reason most people don't know this. It's simply because most people find things that...

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Unread postby Aaron » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 12:14:55

Tell them to google "peak oil"

or just "oil"

And yes, this is not known to the mainstream. Most people you talk to will not have heard of this idea. (Depending of course on who you ask)

That's what many of us are doing here... an attempt to educate & drag this serious discussion out from the Urban Legend & conspiracy theory crowd, and into the mainstream debate.

If real seismic data was publicly available for all oil fields, either we would know peak oil is a myth, or we would know that we are in trouble and everyone would be talking about it.
The problem is, of course, that not only is economics bankrupt, but it has always been nothing more than politics in disguise... economics is a form of brain damage.

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Unread postby tkn317071 » Mon 12 Jul 2004, 18:25:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'I')f real seismic data was publicly available for all oil fields, either we would know peak oil is a myth, or we would know that we are in trouble and everyone would be talking about it.


Not to be too ticky-tack, but peak oil would not be a myth even if plenty of oil were available. As so many people have said, it's not a matter of if, but a matter of when. So the peak may come in a hundred years. IMO, even if it's in five hundred years, if we have the means and desire to improve the way we get energy then we should move in that direction, why wait? Sure oil is super energy dense but its also very polluting and damaging to extract. What are we here (on earth) for anyways? To see how quickly we can mess the place up? Or could it be that we are here for a higher purpose?
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Unread postby RIPSmithianEconomics » Tue 13 Jul 2004, 02:26:01

On the poll question, I'd say it depends where you live. I certainly that if I was in America, with 260 million pissed gun owners, that I'd learn how to use a gun (or run away really fast). But in a country like Britain where the only gun users I'd have to fear would be the army (only the most elite standard army in the world) I'm concentrating on learning the skills of animal and vegetable gardening.

As soon as I can afford it, I plan to get a crossbow and LOADS of ammunition (for hunting). The farm I'm going to when things get rough already has plenty of shotguns (though no longer any handguns due to the Dunblane massacre). But really, I think a good location for farming should be everyone's primary concern. It should be within trading distance of civilization but still be enough of a distance so that you won't be the raiders' first stop.
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