[Nickel]

Put up by the Liberals, apparently.

BushHarper.com

[Delphis]

Okay, that is pretty darn funny...or sad, depending on your bend.

Did you watch the debates in CA or US last night Nickel...

I particularly like the intro audio clip in the upper left corner, funny that it is located in the upper left and not the far right (LOL)

Cheers!

[Nickel]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Delphis', 'D')id you watch the debates in CA or US last night Nickel...

[Delphis]

Roger that,

I listened to our debate on NPR, purely for entertainment factor. It lived up to the hype. Which is more than I can say for the bailout...the market is not reacting well as the credit issues were not addressed.

Very funny website though, it's good to get a laugh in once in a while in the current climate...

I'll be in Canada all weekend actually. Look forward to it, I was there last week as well. I haven't planned it that way, but if TSHTF and I am in your country I won't complain...I sure wish you had better beer and wine though.

Cheers!

[ki11ercane]

Here is the plain and simple of it all:

If you want:

GST put back to up 7%

Harper Child Tax Credit reduced to $0.00

Every firearm (and I mean EVERY) firearm taken from the 5 million + gun owners.

VOTE LIBERAL!

Being a prepper, having to dole out more of my money for my government to waste it, have the government give me less back, and take my firearms, which are all important components to my continued PO prepping, not a chance. If sending troops to Iraq was Harper's biggest "possible" (he didn't end up doing it) mistake as our PM, that is simply Liberal reaching.

They aren't going to win anyway. No one wants another Chretian in power.

[RdSnt]

Ah yes, another weekend jarhead wannabe crawls out of his cave to spout the party lines.

Show me specifically where any of the party's have said GST goes back to 7%.

Show me where anyone has said the CTC goes to zero. Oh yes and please show me how it has improved anything. Harper says out of one side of his mouth the credit is wonderful and good for children and makes more daycare spaces available. Then it's how much more dangerous our children have become and 14 year old, savage, hardened repeat, monsters must be adults.
What do you spend your credits on, beer or bullets?

And it's handguns they are talking about, not ALL guns.

Bush and company are war criminals. If they set foot in this county they should be arrested, as is mandated in our laws.

Harper fully believes in the tragically failed theories of the Chicago school of economics. Tax cuts the rich, then de-regulation and no oversight for Wallthief, and now socialist , welfare rescue of those very same thieves. He's all for that.
It's worked out so well in the US hasn't it?

[Delphis]

Not real familiar with your politics up there guys but jeez it sounds like you have all the same issued we do...

I think if your even near a political bend that could, even someone's wildest dreams, compare you to Bushie, that's enough for me...

Besides you guys have lots of Oil right, LOL.

[ki11ercane]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'A')h yes, another weekend jarhead wannabe crawls out of his cave to spout the party lines. Show me specifically where any of the party's have said GST goes back to 7%.
Show me where anyone has said the CTC goes to zero. Oh yes and please show me how it has improved anything. Harper says out of one side of his mouth the credit is wonderful and good for children and makes more daycare spaces available. Then it's how much more dangerous our children have become and 14 year old, savage, hardened repeat, monsters must be adults. What do you spend your credits on, beer or bullets?
And it's handguns they are talking about, not ALL guns. Bush and company are war criminals. If they set foot in this county they should be arrested, as is mandated in our laws.
Harper fully believes in the tragically failed theories of the Chicago school of economics. Tax cuts the rich, then de-regulation and no oversight for Wallthief, and now socialist , welfare rescue of those very same thieves. He's all for that.
It's worked out so well in the US hasn't it?

[RdSnt]

You're right, it was too personal and I apologize.

If you can show me a third party, objective analysis of Dion's tax plan then perhaps I'll concede the point. But a link to Harper? Come on.

There is nothing in the proposed gun control amendments that even remotely makes a Lee Enfield qualify. They are talking about select-fire and semi's with military modifications.

It was the Weimar government that brought in gun control 1929, to bring some stability to the country by taking the guns away from the many private armies, including the Nazi's. The Nazi's 1938 amendments were quite pointless considering they already had dictatorial control of the country.

To be honest, I would prefer a different approach. I would institute laws to make the gun manufacturers responsible. They claim the guns are perfectly safe, if handled properly, but your daughter shoots and kills her brother by accident, then there must be a design flaw in the weapon.
Ford didn't intentionally design the Pinto to explode on impact, but they were responsible for the design flaws.

For all the things that "Ditto" Harper wants to do, we only have to look south to see how miserable those same policies have worked there.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'T')hey claim the guns are perfectly safe, if handled properly, but your daughter shoots and kills her brother by accident, then there must be a design flaw in the weapon.

[ki11ercane]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'Y')ou're right, it was too personal and I apologize.

If you can show me a third party, objective analysis of Dion's tax plan then perhaps I'll concede the point. But a link to Harper? Come on.

There is nothing in the proposed gun control amendments that even remotely makes a Lee Enfield qualify. They are talking about select-fire and semi's with military modifications.

It was the Weimar government that brought in gun control 1929, to bring some stability to the country by taking the guns away from the many private armies, including the Nazi's. The Nazi's 1938 amendments were quite pointless considering they already had dictatorial control of the country.

To be honest, I would prefer a different approach. I would institute laws to make the gun manufacturers responsible. They claim the guns are perfectly safe, if handled properly, but your daughter shoots and kills her brother by accident, then there must be a design flaw in the weapon.
Ford didn't intentionally design the Pinto to explode on impact, but they were responsible for the design flaws.

For all the things that "Ditto" Harper wants to do, we only have to look south to see how miserable those same policies have worked there.

[Dreamtwister]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '2'). I am totally a proponent to gun control

[ki11ercane]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '2'). I am totally a proponent to gun control

[RdSnt]

Okay, I hear you. You are however mis-reading the proposed legislation. My Lee Enfield, which has not be converted to domestic use, is not in danger.

Here's the clause you seem to be mis-reading:

"Military assault rifles are defined as fully-automatic and selective-fire rifles along with selected semi-automatic rifles designed for military purposes and possessing military features such as: use of a large capacity magazine, folding/telescoping stock, a protruding pistol grip, a bayonet mount, or threaded muzzle or flash suppressor. It is these military features – features whose sole purpose is to render the rifle a more effective tool for killing other people – which make these rifles a threat to public safety."

Neither your bolt action or your pump shotgun can be included in this.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '2'). I am totally a proponent to gun control

[ki11ercane]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RdSnt', 'O')kay, I hear you. You are however mis-reading the proposed legislation. My Lee Enfield, which has not be converted to domestic use, is not in danger.

Here's the clause you seem to be mis-reading:

"Military assault rifles are defined as fully-automatic and selective-fire rifles along with selected semi-automatic rifles designed for military purposes and possessing military features such as: use of a large capacity magazine, folding/telescoping stock, a protruding pistol grip, a bayonet mount, or threaded muzzle or flash suppressor. It is these military features – features whose sole purpose is to render the rifle a more effective tool for killing other people – which make these rifles a threat to public safety."

Neither your bolt action or your pump shotgun can be included in this.



$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Dreamtwister', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ki11ercane', '2'). I am totally a proponent to gun control