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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby grassland » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 04:45:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('burtonridr', 'T')his is why I just bought a small 23 ft motorhome.

I loose my job, I send in the keys to the bank, they foreclose on my house, we live in the motorhome with 0 bills.

Just need a storage unit or something to house all our food supplies....


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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby cube » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 04:48:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'W')hen I was a boy, my mother always warned me about "Gypsies" who might steal me away. Of course in the pre WWII Europe that my grandmother came from, Gypsies were real. Homeless displaced people pushed out of Russia, Germany, Romania, Hungary. My own grandparents WERE Gypsies.

In those days, the gypsies travelled with wagons drawn by oxen, now todays gypsies are living in SUVs and RVs. Displaced out of their economies as the economy went south. Reduced to crime, to kidnapping, to prostitution, whatever means to survive.

The social welfare net is broken. Old or young, if you do not have a means to provide for yourself now you are human waste, you are on your way to the Human Waste Recycling Plant in San Antonio. Too many losers in the game now, and the Rich flicked the switch. In America, we will learn now what the Pogroms were all about, what the Holocaust was all about. Those in power steal the lives of the poor they sucked the wealth out of. They CONSUME them.

Never Again? I don't think so.

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If you don't mind me asking, what was your major when you went college?
I know for sure it wasn't engineering!

Let me guess you must of majored in theatrical performance? :wink:
Your writing style is.......lets just say very "unconventional" considering this is an internet message board.
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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby grassland » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 04:49:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', 'W')hen I was a boy, my mother always warned me about "Gypsies" who might steal me away. Of course in the pre WWII Europe that my grandmother came from, Gypsies were real. Homeless displaced people pushed out of Russia, Germany, Romania, Hungary. My own grandparents WERE Gypsies.

In those days, the gypsies travelled with wagons drawn by oxen, now todays gypsies are living in SUVs and RVs. Displaced out of their economies as the economy went south. Reduced to crime, to kidnapping, to prostitution, whatever means to survive.

The social welfare net is broken. Old or young, if you do not have a means to provide for yourself now you are human waste, you are on your way to the Human Waste Recycling Plant in San Antonio. Too many losers in the game now, and the Rich flicked the switch. In America, we will learn now what the Pogroms were all about, what the Holocaust was all about. Those in power steal the lives of the poor they sucked the wealth out of. They CONSUME them.

Never Again? I don't think so.

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My friend, in a few months the "RICH" will have the same amount of money as the poor.
Do you understand our dollar is crashing? who cars if you have 2 million pieces of newspaper or 10,000 everyone is poor.

Total collapse.

It will get to the point that people will eat their dead family members.

That is when it is bad., it is nothing yet.

Also, dying isn't so bad, you kind of loose strength get weak and lay down for a few days, then you wake up dead.
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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 05:09:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cube', 'I')f you don't mind me asking, what was your major when you went college?
I know for sure it wasn't engineering!

Let me guess you must of majored in theatrical performance? :wink:
Your writing style is.......lets just say very "unconventional" considering this is an internet message board.


My original major was Biochemistry. I minored in Mathematics. I ended up with two majors because I read a lot of Psycholgy on my own time and took the GRE in that subject.

I am of course VERY unconventional in my thinking, my writing reflects that. I developed the "theatrical" aspect arguing with some very passionate people about a subject far distant form what we talk about here on one level, but a microcosm of it on another. i have been thru all this stuff before, but I like hearing what other people think, it makes me think also.

One of my best friends always chides me for the over the top analogies I use, and the outrageous theatricality of my writing. I'm OK with this. I have a lot of fun writing this way :-) I can write plain english also, jsu its not so entertaining. LOL.

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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 05:20:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('grassland', '
')My friend, in a few months the "RICH" will have the same amount of money as the poor.
Do you understand our dollar is crashing? who cars if you have 2 million pieces of newspaper or 10,000 everyone is poor.

Total collapse.

It will get to the point that people will eat their dead family members.

That is when it is bad., it is nothing yet.


You must have missed my Zombie Posts in other threads. :-)

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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 05:32:14

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '
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My original major was Biochemistry. I minored in Mathematics. I ended up with two majors because I read a lot of Psycholgy on my own time and took the GRE in that subject.



Are you saying that you got a good score on the GRE and your university then granted you a second major in psychology?
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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby ReverseEngineer » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 05:49:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')re you saying that you got a good score on the GRE and your university then granted you a second major in psychology?

Yah, exactly. I scored over 700, and got awarded 30 credits in Psych for that. Easy credits :-) Post Columbia, through the Regents College of NY, now called Excelsior College.
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Re: Car Sleepers The New US Homeless

Unread postby wisconsin_cur » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 06:01:49

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('wisconsin_cur', 'A')re you saying that you got a good score on the GRE and your university then granted you a second major in psychology?
Yah, exactly. I scored over 700, and got awarded 30 credits in Psych for that. Easy credits :-) Post Columbia, through the Regents College of NY, now called Excelsior College.

Now if that ain't the durn-dest thing.

Back to the topic at hand:

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Re: 'Car sleepers' the new US homeless

Unread postby Nickel » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 08:08:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '&')lt;i>What is this term middle class homeless? If you are living in your car, you are NOT middle class, you are homeless. <b>Time to recognize there are only two classes of people; those that stole the wealth of America and those that got fleeced.</b></i>


Yeah, this is f***ed up. Someone needs to stand up and turn the blow torch on all the wealth that's been sucked up and frozen in banks and turn it back into liquidity. Having a couple of good ideas backed up by money your grandfather had isn't enough justification to put other human beings out on the street.

C'mon, baby, eat the rich. Bite down on the son of bitch.
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Re: 'Car sleepers' the new US homeless

Unread postby VMarcHart » Fri 03 Oct 2008, 08:40:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('CarlosFerreira', 'I')t hurts to see people like that. And, of course, these people have no basic healthcare, no safety, nothing.
Right-O. It sure hurts. One thing at least, the generic "poor people in third world countries" will get a break from being the at the bottom of the ridicule totem.
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Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby mattduke » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 10:30:39

Look what the government/bankers have done to us.

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/ ... 8I20081112
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby VMarcHart » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:15:32

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')ook what the government/bankers have done to us.
I don't know how fair it is to say the gov't and bankers are turning us into homeless people.

Since the beginning of the foreclosure epidemic, my position has been people bought homes with their eyes, not with their wallets, buying more, bigger, prettier, newer, etc, than they could afford, and signing for deals they couldn't afford. If people were living within their limits, less of this would be happening now.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby vision-master » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:24:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')ook what the government/bankers have done to us.
I don't know how fair it is to say the gov't and bankers are turning us into homeless people.

Since the beginning of the foreclosure epidemic, my position has been people bought homes with their eyes, not with their wallets, buying more, bigger, prettier, newer, etc, than they could afford, and signing for deals they couldn't afford. If people were living within their limits, less of this would be happening now.


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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby Northern_Pike » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:31:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '
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VMarcHart... Realist

Having too big of a heart is going to get costly, for those that suffer from that affliction, in the near future.

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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby Roy » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:41:48

Bankers and other mortgage slime were at least partially responsible.

For example, when my wife and I were looking to buy here in NC in 2006, we were given a limit of $350k. At the time I was unemployed and my wife self-employed. That limit was arrived at by looking at her earnings for one year.

Contrast that to our first mortgage in 1998 where we had to go back a number of years and a person had to be at a job, IIRC, at least two years to get a mortgage.

We ended up spending less than half that, at the mortgage agencies' displeasure. Fortunately for me my wife had the wisdom to listen to me and not demand a house closer to that limit even though at the time she was a little skeptical of my doomer views.

But I, being a member here for two years at that time, had an idea of what was coming and that a $2500/month house note was probably not a good idea no matter what our combined income was in 2005.

Some people weren't aware and their eyes got bigger than their wallets. They fell for "the value will go up every year" and "you just can't lose on this deal". Trusting these so called experts.

Why on earth would banksters offer that kind of money to people who in all likelihood would have been another foreclosure statistic if they had agreed?

Greed. Pure unadulterated greed. Light sweet greed. We were awash in it. They made their money up front.

Perhaps some heavy sour common sense will come out of all this mess.

Thanks PO.com. You've (at least helped) saved my ass more than once.

So I continue reading and learning from the many knowledgeable posters here.

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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby Roy » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 11:51:28

I had to add this; It just appeared in my inbox and really struck a chord.
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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are over 42 million American adults, 20 percent of whom hold high school diplomas, who cannot read, as well as the 50 million who read at a fourth- or fifth-grade level. Nearly a third of the nation's population is illiterate or barely literate. And their numbers are growing by an estimated 2 million a year. But even those who are supposedly literate retreat in huge numbers into this image-based existence. A third of high school graduates, along with 42 percent of college graduates, never read a book after they finish school. Eighty percent of the families in the United States last year did not buy a book.

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$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he illiterate and semi-literate, once the campaigns are over, remain powerless. They still cannot protect their children from dysfunctional public schools. They still cannot understand predatory loan deals, the intricacies of mortgage papers, credit card agreements and equity lines of credit that drive them into foreclosures and bankruptcies. They still struggle with the most basic chores of daily life from reading instructions on medicine bottles to filling out bank forms, car loan documents and unemployment benefit and insurance papers. They watch helplessly and without comprehension as hundreds of thousands of jobs are shed. They are hostages to brands. Brands come with images and slogans. Images and slogans are all they understand. Many eat at fast food restaurants not only because it is cheap but because they can order from pictures rather than menus. And those who serve them, also semi-literate or illiterate, punch in orders on cash registers whose keys are marked with symbols and pictures. This is our brave new world.

The concepts and ideas in this artice are relevant to this discussion and many others.

Homerun!
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby EnergyUnlimited » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 12:37:17

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roy', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he illiterate and semi-literate, once the campaigns are over, remain powerless. They still cannot protect their children from dysfunctional public schools. They still cannot understand predatory loan deals, the intricacies of mortgage papers, credit card agreements and equity lines of credit that drive them into foreclosures and bankruptcies. They still struggle with the most basic chores of daily life from reading instructions on medicine bottles to filling out bank forms, car loan documents and unemployment benefit and insurance papers. They watch helplessly and without comprehension as hundreds of thousands of jobs are shed. They are hostages to brands. Brands come with images and slogans. Images and slogans are all they understand. Many eat at fast food restaurants not only because it is cheap but because they can order from pictures rather than menus. And those who serve them, also semi-literate or illiterate, punch in orders on cash registers whose keys are marked with symbols and pictures. This is our brave new world.
The concepts and ideas in this artice are relevant to this discussion and many others. Homerun!

That is interesting to read that so many Americans are illiterate.
I thought, it is 2-3 millions at most, usually mentally ill.

However lack of basic literacy is not enough to kill your common sense.

I know one villager who is hardly literate, but not mentally ill. He can pass by quite well. His attitude to financial world is that
"every financial deal, deposit or loan, doesn't matter, must be a fraud".

So he does not engage any...

He is a fisherman. He knows how to catch fish, he knows where to sell it and cash is the only form of money, which he had ever seen and used.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby mos6507 » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 12:38:01

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')here are over 42 million American adults, 20 percent of whom hold high school diplomas, who cannot read, as well as the 50 million who read at a fourth- or fifth-grade level. Nearly a third of the nation's population is illiterate or barely literate. And their numbers are growing by an estimated 2 million a year. But even those who are supposedly literate retreat in huge numbers into this image-based existence. A third of high school graduates, along with 42 percent of college graduates, never read a book after they finish school. Eighty percent of the families in the United States last year did not buy a book.


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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby hermit » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 13:02:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mattduke', 'L')ook what the government/bankers have done to us. link

They couldn't have done it without our help.
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Re: Families Flooding Homeless Shelters

Unread postby VMarcHart » Thu 13 Nov 2008, 13:06:38

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Northern_Pike', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', 'V')MarcHartLess
VMarcHart... Realist Having too big of a heart is going to get costly, for those that suffer from that affliction, in the near future.- Pike

No sweat, Pike. I'm growing accustomed to when Vision doesn't have anything good to add, he resorts to ad hominen.
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