[CarlosFerreira]

It hurts to see people like that. And, of course, these people have no basic healthcare, no safety, nothing.

But Cyd, a question that's not meant to be provocative in any way: what do you consider was America's wealth?

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
') these are Santa Barbara's car sleepers.

[Cid_Yama]

Just trying to expose the Myth of the Middle Class. There has actually always been only two classes. The ruling class and the working class. Middle class is like the slave foreman. He's still a slave.

The wealth of America, is the conditions we would live in if there wasn't this giant machine over us 'harvesting' the wealth of America and concentrating it at the top.

[katkinkate]

Yes there is some danger in staying in the city in a less than secure accommodations, but there is better access to emergency services, schools and a better chance of picking up a job.

[joeltrout]

She lives in Santa Barbara which is one of the most expensive areas to live. I bet if she moved to Taft, CA she could afford a house.

According to Trulia.com the average listing price for week ending Sept 24 was $2,418,509 in Santa Barbara.

joeltrout

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', '
') these are Santa Barbara's car sleepers.

[katkinkate]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cid_Yama', 'J')ust trying to expose the Myth of the Middle Class. There has actually always been only two classes. The ruling class and the working class. Middle class is like the slave foreman. He's still a slave.

The wealth of America, is the conditions we would live in if there wasn't this giant machine over us 'harvesting' the wealth of America and concentrating it at the top.

[frankthetank]

Some cars are pretty nice. I would live in a LExus LS430...

[AgentR]

While it certainly is homelessness...

Its not new.
A reporter using the word "new" does not make it so.

[Eli]

This is just a taste, things really have not gotten that bad yet.

That is in comparison to what is coming.

[AgentR]

PS: Mini-vans are *really* good for this purpose. Take out the back row and you've got a little sleep n office space, wireless laptop, inverter, neighborhood wifi link...

[burtonridr]

This is why I just bought a small 23 ft motorhome.

I loose my job, I send in the keys to the bank, they foreclose on my house, we live in the motorhome with 0 bills.

Just need a storage unit or something to house all our food supplies....

[allenwrench]

boondockers.

[cube]

When I first came onto this forum there was a universal agreement amongst peak oilers that SUV vehicles would no longer have a future.
I guess we were all wrong.
It seems that SUV's will be put to use well into the future.

[3aidlillahi]

I love it. People driving from parking lot to parking lot in their SUV's complaining about the dying economy. People in the middle of a foreclosure crisis moving to the place hit hardest by it. If you were to pitch this as a novel, the publisher wouldn't think the people too dumb to be realistic. America, fer ya.

[Zardoz]

At least fifteen years ago there was a story in the L.A. Times about women living in their cars, hanging around in affluent neighborhoods.

They were all pretty much in the same predicament: Middle-aged or older, grown kids, formerly upper-middle-class, now divorced. They had discovered the hard way that they could not really make it on their own, without their ex-husbands' income. They couldn't quite meet monthly expenses on whatever they were making on their own.

They wanted no part of living in some poor neighborhood in a cheap apartment or something, far from their friends, their jobs, and the places they had lived for decades. They were holding on to whatever part of their old lives they could.

This living-in-cars phenomenon is not something new or unique. It's always been going on to some degree.

[Denny]

Its like a modern day Grapes of Wrath developing. We have gone so far in 70 years.

[TheDude]

Aaron had a thread last year on Gypsy Travelers. There was another thread with some pictures of wagons, including a horse drawn SUV chassis in the Balkans; glimpse into the future?

I did a fair bit of digging into the topic at the time, took a great interest in potential BOVs - Bug Out Vehicles. Gypsy Images has lots of pics of Romamobiles.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'J')ust trying to expose the Myth of the Middle Class. There has actually always been only two classes. The ruling class and the working class. Middle class is like the slave foreman. He's still a slave.

The wealth of America, is the conditions we would live in if there wasn't this giant machine over us 'harvesting' the wealth of America and concentrating it at the top.

[Sixstrings]

Huh..

I posted on on these boards about this in July ( link ).

The Breitbart video link in the original thread isn't working anymore, but here's an AFP story from that date: link

The same woman, Barbara Harvey, is featured in both stories. Do we really have a situation where the SAME Santa Barbara homeless woman has been interviewed by French press in July and now the British press in September?

Oy vey, if just the international press contributed the cost of their trips to California, our dear Barbara would could be set up somewhere by now!

Seriously.. in New York City alone there are 21,000 adults and 16,000 children bedding down every night in a homeless shelter. That number doesn't include those on the streets, or in cars, that's just the shelters.

Nationwide, 3.5 million Americans have been homeless at some point in their lives, including 1.35 million children. In Great Britain, estimated homeless is in the 400,000 range.

Given the multitudes of homeless persons in the first world, not to mention poorer countries, I find it curious this one person is being reported on so much.

[ReverseEngineer]

When I was a boy, my mother always warned me about "Gypsies" who might steal me away. Of course in the pre WWII Europe that my grandmother came from, Gypsies were real. Homeless displaced people pushed out of Russia, Germany, Romania, Hungary. My own grandparents WERE Gypsies.

In those days, the gypsies travelled with wagons drawn by oxen, now todays gypsies are living in SUVs and RVs. Displaced out of their economies as the economy went south. Reduced to crime, to kidnapping, to prostitution, whatever means to survive.

The social welfare net is broken. Old or young, if you do not have a means to provide for yourself now you are human waste, you are on your way to the Human Waste Recycling Plant in San Antonio. Too many losers in the game now, and the Rich flicked the switch. In America, we will learn now what the Pogroms were all about, what the Holocaust was all about. Those in power steal the lives of the poor they sucked the wealth out of. They CONSUME them.

Never Again? I don't think so.

Reverse Engineer