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Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby TheDude » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 20:49:39

Pike - read Megaproject Forecasts, a short thread which ties into work done on other sites. This is the crux of the matter for me, that we are, in the words of anti-ethanol crusader David Pimentel, "burning too many damned fossil fuels," and that it will be quite a feat to stay at our current level, never mind increase supply for rising demand - which is happening, even in an economic slowdown.
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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 20:53:10

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Northern_Pike', 'T')o those most knowledgable economic stategists and big market investors that are so well educated on the matter, I say this: How are your investments doing?

I deserve that :)

Our 300 acres has received great rainfall this year ranch land continues to increase in value. My #10 can supply continues to grow and my precious metals are still holding their value even though it has been volatile. My library continues to grow after purchasing the book "Stocking Up" this weekend in Cambria, CA at a used book store. I just received the most recent MotherEarth News magazine. We still have a couple hundred pounds of elk & deer meat in the freezer and several hundred rounds ammo for our rifles and shotguns. Things are goood.

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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby Northern_Pike » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 21:07:04

There ya go, JT!

You just changed the direction of my entire opinion of you with your last post to this thread. I now see you as a levelheaded pragmatist taking aim, and planning well, for any possible scenario in a bold new future. I wish you nothing but success in all your endeavors!

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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby joeltrout » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 21:10:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Northern_Pike', 'T')here ya go, JT!

You just changed the direction of my entire opinion of you with your last post to this thread. I now see you as a levelheaded pragmatist taking aim, and planning well, for any possible scenario in a bold new future. I wish you nothing but success in all your endeavors!

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Dont let that fool you. I am still hoping they pass the bill to rescue our economy.

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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby Northern_Pike » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 22:02:04

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', ' ') Dont let that fool you. I am still hoping they pass the bill to rescue our economy.

I got that loud and clear, JT. Hence:
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Northern_Pike', '.')..planning well, for any possible scenario...

My income limitations have kept my preparations to those I stated above. There is no stock portfolio, mutual funds, nor even a 401K in my near future. I’m not jealous, at least not much anyhow. I am content with the life I have. My family needs for nothing. We have a warm happy home and plenty of extras too. I'm not really wishing for a total collapse, I just see it as inevitable.

However, my own personal lot in life really only improves, compared to others around me, if it actually does happen, and I come out on top during the event. There is by no means any assurance that I will succeed. There is, however, a large measure of certainty that it will eventually come crashing down around us, sooner I think, rather than later. If you think competition in the world of business and high finance is brutal, the competition for the scraps left after the collapse will be deadly.

It cost me surprisingly little to prepare my entire family for TEOTWAWKI, and I like our chances to survive, even thrive when it happens. Heck, even my 4 year old knows when and how to collect and prepare acorns and cattails as a staple food supply. We all enjoy working in our garden. My middle child is a far better hunter and fisherman than I was at his age, and he loves nothing better. My oldest boy is freakishly huge and strong. All my boys study martial arts and the two older boys are good shots with the rifles. Even my wife is former Army (like myself) and hasn’t forgotten all her training. Most of all, they will each, every last one of them, follow orders when it counts. I myself have been well trained for long-term wilderness survival.

If TEOTWAWKI happens or doesn’t happen, I will die poor, but not penniless. I will have been rich, raising good kids into good adults, and I will have showed my kids how to thrive in a much simpler way of life, where a man must depend on his own abilities to thrive, collapse or not. And, I will die happy.
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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby HEADER_RACK » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 22:44:41

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joeltrout', 'N')o it doesn't require education to know what is going on but it helps a ton especially when people who have spent their entire adult lives studying economics/financial markets are the ones teaching you.
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I love s**t like this! All those people who spent their live studying economics and the markets got themselves in a nine line bind! They preach the markets will work itself out! Then they change the rules to suit themselves(banning short selling) When that doesn't work they with all their knowledge of economics come begging the government we need help! You have to help us! Give us your money and we will give you our crap for exchange!
Markets save the world with peak oil ABSURD!! They can't even save themselves from their own feces!
Let them FAIL!!! and if it does all fall to crap let it be known that all those knowledgeable economist and financial thinkers are to blame for it!

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Re: Why the P.O. problem rings true to me.

Unread postby kpeavey » Tue 30 Sep 2008, 22:48:17

Wealth has nothing to do with being rich.
If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face--for ever."
-George Orwell, 1984
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twenty centuries of stony sleep were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle, and what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
-George Yeats
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