[seahorse]

In another thread, I agreed with Roccman that this current economic crisis was engineered by the investment bankers as an economic "smash and grab" at the end of Bush' presidency. I made a post explaining my reasoning on another forum, but have not been able to paste it here for some reason. All I can do is link it. I would like for people here to read it and see if they agree based on the facts that I have put forth. There is always a lot of supposition in any theory, but I believe there are enough facts to make the argument that this was an engineered crisis to occur at the end of Bush presidency and raid the tax coffers.

Here's the post:

Crisis was engineered

[vision-master]

http://www.peakoil.com/fortopic45876.html

[Roccland]

More specifically - and this is where you and I SH are greatly divided-

911 was engineered by the same group who brought us this systemic collapse of the financial world to militarily control the golden triangle...because of the onset of PO. "A new Pearl Harbor is needed"...(PNAC).

and as you and I agree...

The housing market was the trigger and fuse engineered by these same people lit in the same 3-5 year period that PO occurred to usher in economic collapse.

The thesis would go something like this...

"They" know about overshoot and peak everything..."they" know that declining net energy would usher in economic collapse...all "they" did was set it to happen on "their" terms.

Bumbling idiots "they" are not.

Without hijacking your thread SH - 47 story buildings just do not drop out of the sky...it does not happen.

Next phase - martial law...AT THE BEGGING OF THE AMERIKAN PEOPLE.

Then die off as written on the Georgia Guidestones.

[seahorse]

Rocc, you may see divison where there may not be one. I'm still open on 9-11. When I come to an opinion, for my own sake, I try to finalize my thoughts in writing like I did on the above link arguing this bailout was a preplanned disaster.

As for 9-11, I have played the devil's advocate because I'm still undecided, which means, I'm still open to evidence. As my 9-11 post show, its not enough to raise questions about the official version for me. Without digressing to a 9-11 discussion here, I would just defer to previous questions I raised, all that to say, I haven't come to a firm conclusion.

I have concluded, though, that this economic crisis was engineered and I believe we have enough evidence as citizens to come to that conclusion and know who to jail for it.

[Roccland]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', '
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I have concluded, though, that this economic crisis was engineered and I believe we have enough evidence as citizens to come to that conclusion and know who to jail for it.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '
')And that thesis is: 911 and this economic collapse were planned by the same people to reach a goal of depopulating the planet and enslaving those who remain.

[Carlhole]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '
')And that thesis is: 911 and this economic collapse were planned by the same people to reach a goal of depopulating the planet and enslaving those who remain.

[jupiters_release]

Property, resource, and wealth consolidation of this scale doesn't happen by luck or accident. If we were central bankers we'd do the exact same thing, business is most profitable in a fixed system, therefore they should rig the economy as much as possible and looking at the current situation obviously they've done an excellent job.

The central bankers' strategy is analogous to that of a master of martial arts. For public eyes, the former pretends to be bankrupt just as the latter can easily appear weak. The common american would never recognize the potential of a real master, especially one who has no desire for status, conversely these bankers have enough common sense to know it's not a good idea to let everyone know where all their wealth is being transferred to.

[dukey]

wow a forum called doomers.us
lol
and yeah of course the crash was planned
JP Morgan seems to be doing EXTREMELY well from this little economic hiccup .. lol

[countrygal]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Roccland', '
')And that thesis is: 911 and this economic collapse were planned by the same people to reach a goal of depopulating the planet and enslaving those who remain.

[countrygal]

There are more non-illuminati banks that need to crash though, before they can tank the market by tightening credit.

If they tighten credit now the large independance would spoil some profit.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('countrygal', '
')That's a good shill, Mos.

You are wrong.

[jbrovont]

Wolfowitz, Rumsfeld, Cheney et. al. ca. 1997 "We need to blow some sh*t up in a serious way to get the American people behind attacking Iraq and Afghanistan." (PNAC summary re. "New Pearl Harbor")

ca. 2001: Some sh*t gets blown up in a serious way under the same watch.

Not exactly an open and shut case, but if someone makes a public statement "I want to cause a disaster," and then it happens while they're in the vicinity, fitting the publically stated desired outcome...usually it causes a prudent mind to have some questions.

At the very least, it's a slam dunk for "motive."

Means and opportunity?

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('countrygal', '
')That's a good shill, Mos.

You are wrong.

[TheDude]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Carlhole', 'T')he fact of the matter: the 200+ billion barrels of oil lying beneath Iraq's sands is increasing in strategic and economic value much faster than the debt is piling on. Because the value of the oil represents survival itself.

[countrygal]

They bail out those loyal to their cuae, the competition must tank.
When the smoke clears next year, the mobfia will own everything.
You can't crash the markets until the reins of the monetary system are tight, or the horse will get away from you.
In 1929, the collapse was implemented only when all the banks were on one line. then, they tightened loans and everyone died, and the big boys swept the pot off the table and owned much property. You can't pull that off until major independants like WAMU are removed, they were a huge non mobfia lender and could have actually pulled us out of a stock market crash. Now, it is doubtful america can recover when the credit tightens jointly.

I would say collapse feb march 2009. May, everyone defaults and economy tanks.