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Discussions about the economic and financial ramifications of PEAK OIL

Re: Oil falls, Dollar declines and Gold strong as usual :)

Unread postby copious.abundance » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 21:23:53

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('barbara23', 'H')i traders! Our favorite commodities are bouncing just like a basketball ball. :P

Oil declined on Friday despite falling inventories, as dollar gained against the euro. Crude oil for October delivery fell $1.46 to settle at $107.89.

Dollar's decline gave gold the much needed boost. Spot gold ended gains into a second session to stand at $804.70 per ounce by 1021 GMT, up 0.45 percent from $801.10 in late New York trade on Friday.

Cheers! :wink:

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Oil below $100, Gold rises following Lehman Bankruptcy

Unread postby barbara23 » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 15:57:01

Hi guys, Barbie reporting here again. I really like we can discuss topics such as Gold and Oil prices ;)

There was heavy selling seen in the market by investors in favor of safer assets taking crude oil below $100 a barrel. As oil installations in Gulf of Mexico were spared by hurricane Ike, oil supply disruption expectations diluted. Oil's low stance is keeping gold also lower.

Crude oil for October delivery fell $5.47 to close at $95.71 a barrel on the New York Mercantile Exchange.

On Monday, gold rose initially after dollar slipped over Lehman bankruptcy news. But later with oil's fall, gold also followed suit. Many analysts said that the open positions on gold if closed can take the metal in any direction.

Spot gold was at $775.30/776.90 at 1427 GMT.

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Re: Oil below $100, Gold rises following Lehman Bankruptcy

Unread postby Delphis » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 16:44:41

Barbie,

Looks like it closed at $782.30 dwon $4.70 with Oct. Del Oil (should that be caps) at $91.02 down $4.67...?

My gut tells me the drop in Oil (oil?) may be manufactured and although it's off 20% in the preceeding 30 days, we have only seen a drop locally of $.07 or 2%? I am always suspicious when the price of oil goes up and the gas station attendants are in front immediatley with the telescoping number changers, but when oil drops there is significant delay.

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Re: Oil below $100, Gold rises following Lehman Bankruptcy

Unread postby mrobert » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 18:35:58

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Delphis', 'B')arbie,

Looks like it closed at $782.30 dwon $4.70 with Oct. Del Oil (should that be caps) at $91.02 down $4.67...?

My gut tells me the drop in Oil (oil?) may be manufactured and although it's off 20% in the preceeding 30 days, we have only seen a drop locally of $.07 or 2%? I am always suspicious when the price of oil goes up and the gas station attendants are in front immediatley with the telescoping number changers, but when oil drops there is significant delay.

Cheers!


Since oil was $147 and gas reached an all time high, prices currently dropped by 7% here. They are still above the prices we had when oil was $90 before.
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Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Cashmere » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 13:59:45

Oil - 114
Gold - 902

I guess this the Invisible Hand's way of giving the finger to the Treasury and Fed.

Clearly, money is currently in full flight out of the paper based assets.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:03:40

A Swiss banker on Bloomberg TV last night was saying paper was worthless. He recommended getting gold and commodities, and he stressed PHYSICAL assets, not ETFs. He predicted gold could easily reach $2500/ounce in 2 to 3 years.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Daniel_Plainview » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:04:55

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'O')il - 114
Gold - 902
I guess this the Invisible Hand's way of giving the finger to the Treasury and Fed. Clearly, money is currently in full flight out of the paper based assets.

Oil - $117
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Cashmere » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:05:13

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Jotapay', 'A') Swiss banker on Bloomberg TV last night was saying paper was worthless. He recommended getting gold and commodities, and he stressed PHYSICAL assets, not ETFs. He predicted gold could easily reach $2500/ounce in 2 to 3 years.

ETFs!! hah hah! I love it. A piece of paper that says you own something.

Why does anybody own those when owning the physical bullion is so simple?
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:15:19

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')hy does anybody own those when owning the physical bullion is so simple?

I'm not sure. The risk is so huge with ETFs that I would not be able to rationalize such a thing.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Byron100 » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:17:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'O')il - 114 Gold - 902 I guess this the Invisible Hand's way of giving the finger to the Treasury and Fed. Clearly, money is currently in full flight out of the paper based assets.

Indeed. This is what you get when you try and "cheat" the markets, as our dear friends in the Treasury and the Fed are attempting to do. America is about to learn a very, very painful lesson - you can't get somethin' for nothin'.

There's only one thing left to do now, and that's to accept we're going down into a bona fide Depression. Not a "downturn", not a "recession", but the big "D", as in Depression. Not even God Himself can save our asses now, and that's saying a lot.

It's a sad day here in the U.S. of A., indeed. :(
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Niagara » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:18:11

I'm finding it very difficult to buy gold and silver (the physical metal).

Many of the small shops have no inventory and the online sellers are back-ordered, with the option of refunding your purchase and canceling the order within x days.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Cashmere » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:21:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Niagara', 'I')'m finding it very difficult to buy gold and silver (the physical metal).

Many of the small shops have no inventory and the online sellers are back-ordered, with the option of refunding your purchase and canceling the order within x days.


As I posted on another thread, I think bullion will be seized.

The government will try to seize everything of value before it implodes.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Jotapay » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:21:46

This has been posted a lot in the past week, but AMPEX.com has silver Austrian Philharmonics and they have virtually all gold coins. They are low on bullion, however.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby DirtyHowi » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:26:07

hoooooooooooooooollllly ****

money.cnn.com breaking news oil up past 127 a barrel.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Spanktron9 » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:26:42

oil just went Parabolic! $130! up over $25.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Carlhole » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:27:11

The market must have concluded that the dollar will plummet as the result of the bailout.

Geez, what a dramatic day.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Cid_Yama » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:34:54

Oil is up 17%, nearing $123.00. Panic is setting in as shorts scramble to cover.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby misterno » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:53:20

Matthew Simmons will be back in business :)

As a matter of fact he has a talk in Houston on September 30, 2008 in the Houstonian and I will be there

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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby some_math_guy » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 14:54:44

Oil Prices Explode Higher With Record $25 Jump

Look at the headline article at Yahoo Finance: link

My local coin dealer has been repeatedly out of silver and gold coins and bullion for weeks - ever since the price of PM's crashed. This spot price of PM has come unhinged from physical: 1oz Silver Maples are selling for 20$ and 1976 silver Olympic coins were going for 14$/oz when silver was $10.50. They cannot hang onto their stock even at these prices; as soon as someone comes in to sell (which hasn't been many people I've been told), it's been sold to someone else.

Best place to get PM (as always) is ebay...no stupid sales tax, bar charges, premiums, etc, and delivered insured right to your door. You can grab deals that you will NEVER see at kitco or any other bullion dealers.
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Re: Oil and Gold go Boom-Boom

Unread postby Madpaddy » Mon 22 Sep 2008, 15:00:34

Sweet Jesus,

Oil up to $130.
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