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Bunkers and the bunker mentality re: issue of peak oil

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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby kpeavey » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 08:37:56

The government will do anything and everything possible to preserve the status quo. As long as the Colonial pipeline is down, they will use it to pump cash if they have to.

The money will keep moving for a while, and in ever increasing volume. We still have inflation extremes, extreme unemployment, factory shutdowns, and military action ahead of us.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby jasonraymondson » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 09:21:14

COLLAPSE COLLAPSE COLLAPSE!!!!!!!!!!

I can't become a warlord without a collapse. GO COLLAPSE!!!!!!


Though, it will make it harder to find toilet paper, soap, dirty dirty girls, no wait, the girls will still be dirty and now also literally.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Nano » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 09:30:05

Dutch banker CEO are hurriedly pointing out that their exposure to Lehman is minimal, in the tens of millions. That begs the question: why do they have any exposure at all? What are these people thinking? Whose interests are they guarding, exactly?

After the outright lies of Fortis CEO in the beginning of this year, I understand fully why Dutch banks stocks are falling like a stone today as well as yesterday. They are all a bunch of filthy lying scoundrels, and the shareholders know it.

I never thought I'd say, but I'm mighty glad I'm not some 'analyst' at a bank. I opted to become an engineer, and though it doesn't pay that well, I don't have to lose sleep over losing my job ... yet!
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby roccman » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 09:54:12

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hy are you so anxious and eager to see a total, ultra-catastrophic, overnight collapse of all systems? You've been wishing and hoping for it since you first started posting here.


Two things dose...

1) I do not want this to happen - but it will - read Overshoot by Catton.

2) your response is very typical of one who gives the system way too much credit to not discount the present for future gain...we - humans - are hard wired to cheat - and we cheat our kids and their future.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Heineken » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 10:00:47

I think that death-wish grows out of anger, Zardoz. I've had it myself, I admit.

There is so much to be angry about, and therefore so much to want to see come crashing down.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby MattSavinar » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 10:40:46

Roccman,

You back on your meds? I ask because that was some really good stuf f you posted, figure that probably means you're back on them again or maybe have some new ones.

Anyhoo, yeah this is probably "it".

(By "this" I mean the month of September not just 1 particular day or event)
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby BigTex » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 10:48:01

You mean all of this is actually happening?

I thought it was just one of those long Tool videos.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby vision-master » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 11:13:06

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'R')occman,

You back on your meds? I ask because that was some really good stuf f you posted, figure that probably means you're back on them again or maybe have some new ones.

Anyhoo, yeah this is probably "it".

(By "this" I mean the month of September not just 1 particular day or event)


Knock it off, go back to taht latoc cult forum. :razz:
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Cashmere » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 13:39:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'R')eally folks... Read these two pages on AIG: TF Now you understand why I said your FICO means squat...and you should buy food.

For all you morally superior fvcks who think a 750 is going to do you any good, Write it on the back of a match book - grab your last loaf of bread and smugly enjoy your own personal fade to black.


You know roccman, my first impression of you has proven to be very accurate.

The first post I read by you was back when you were posting how you were going to drag your ex into court because she wasn't willing to adopt your emergency, end of the world bug-out plan.

You were advised then to let it go, because your real motivation wasn't protection of your children but rather control over your wife.

You actually didn't think that you would sound like a lunatic dragging your wife into court and requesting that the judge make her agree to your end-of-the-world bug out plans.

You thought you were being reasonable.

You were being hysterical then.

You're being hysterical again.

You're the perfect candidate to live on a hilltop deep in the woods in a shack with your pet dog "snoops." Except for you'd always be thinking snoops was out to get you.

If you didn't have kids, I'd say go now. The hilltop awaits.

Unfortunately, you've got children.

Dude, you have seriously got to ratchet down your anxiety about 20-30%. It's that extra amount that takes you from well-informed and intelligent guy to the guy who seemed about to pop and shoot 20 people for no reason.

I've seen you bitch about the search feature. Sure it's not great. So what? Use it or stop your whining.

I've seen you bitch about "expert" labels. You're not an "expert" and you'll never be an "expert" on PO.com because that 20-30% anxiety factor makes you come across, just like with your wife, as an overbearing lunatic.

Seriously man, I almost always recommend to people to stay off of drugs.

You should consider some zanax.

I'm one of the biggest doomers on this board. But I think there may never be the KABOOM moment you seem to be so desperately waiting for.

It may well be a several year grind into oblivion, a little worse each day.

You seriously need to unwind yourself. What the hell is your BP?

If the Zombies don't get you, the hypertension will.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Zardoz » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 14:07:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', '.')..I do not want this to happen - but it will...

We're in total agreement as to where this will probably all end up eventually. We only differ on how long it will take to get there.

I'm convinced that all you fast-crashers are badly underestimating the ability of we glorified chimpanzees to patch up the systems and keep them stumbling and staggering along. We'll keep re-arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic right up until she does her final death-dive, and that may be a decade or two from now.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby StuckInPhilly » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 14:56:50

Fortune Cookie Say:
Light at end of tunnel but tunnel very long and dark.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby seahorse » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 15:25:03

I suspect the Fed will give AIG a bridge loan. Paulson is intimating as much.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Heineken » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 15:30:47

The Fed won't give it the loan. Our children's children's children will.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby threadbear » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 15:46:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('seahorse', 'I') suspect the Fed will give AIG a bridge loan. Paulson is intimating as much.


Like they can afford a bridge, with all that's going on! Sheesh.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby firestarter » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 16:00:03

The Fed is barred by statute to provide liquidity streams to an insurer, as they only oversee banks. It's up to Treasury to come up with $$$ or private investors. The Fed can organize these entities, but they can't materially contribute one dime.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby vision-master » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 17:29:26

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('roccman', 'R')eally folks... Read these two pages on AIG: TF Now you understand why I said your FICO means squat...and you should buy food. For all you morally superior fvcks who think a 750 is going to do you any good, Write it on the back of a match book - grab your last loaf of bread and smugly enjoy your own personal fade to black.
You know roccman, my first impression of you has proven to be very accurate. --snip-- You seriously need to unwind yourself. What the hell is your BP? If the Zombies don't get you, the hypertension will.

Well, this is a Doomer site ya know.
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby TWilliam » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 21:00:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('StuckInPhilly', 'F')ortune Cookie Say:
Light at end of tunnel but tunnel very long and dark.


Other Fortune Cookie Say:
Light at end of tunnel bullet train headlamp.
"It means buckle your seatbelt, Dorothy, because Kansas? Is goin' bye-bye... "
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby dinopello » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 22:02:45

What passes for a bunker these day ? It seems like most come with Broadband and HBO, an espresso machine and AC. So, sure head for the bunker. I need to get an ice machine for mine that makes those cool little cubes with the indentation - you know what I'm talkin about!

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edit: sorry for my flip attitude. I agree the S is Hing TF. But I am explaining the seriousness of these bank failures and other situations to my friend, she agrees with me, and then invites me to her Halloween party! It's all so bizarre !
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby roccman » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 22:19:34

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('MattSavinar', 'R')occman, You back on your meds? I ask because that was some really good stuf f you posted, figure that probably means you're back on them again or maybe have some new ones.
Anyhoo, yeah this is probably "it". (By "this" I mean the month of September not just 1 particular day or event)

Thanks matty! No drugs...no drink...no smoke...pure adreniline...
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Re: It's BUNKER time !!!

Postby Last_Laff » Tue 16 Sep 2008, 22:32:52

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zardoz', 'W')hy are you so anxious and eager to see a total, ultra-catastrophic, overnight collapse of all systems? You've been wishing and hoping for it since you first started posting here.


It's because he's mad at the time he has done "time" and couldn't get it back. Guess he's in vengeance through this site.
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