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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Ludi » Mon 08 Sep 2008, 18:26:59

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'V')ERY SIMPLE

Love your neighbor as yourself.


I give this plan my full endorsement! :)
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby starsky » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 09:27:05

What would I do?

1. Cut 95% of military spending. The only military left would be the engineers that maintain the nuclear arsenal and the soldiers that guard it. Plus border patrol and coast guard.

2. Stop importing plastic cups and other useless trinkets from China.

3. Sterilize everybody with an IQ below 100, and those who use the nickname "Cashmere" on Peak Oil internet forums.

4. Institute a euthanasia program. The following people should be euthanised: people who have mullets, like the Bill Cosby show, use Axe deodorant, have installed and used the SETI@Home program, Elvis look-a-likes, chronic masturbators, Bill Cosby, tap-dancers, people who use the nickname "Cashmere" on Peak Oil internet forums, albinos with red hair, people who can't pronounce "onomatopoeia" or "peanut", people who get sexually aroused by chairs, and so on ... you get the picture.

5. Tax credits for those who give me money.

6. Tax credits for those who commit suicide.

7. Mandated cannibalism - don't let that meat go to waste!

8. Matt Damon.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby mos6507 » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:10:22

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('joelcolorado', 'A')nd the electricity will come from WHERE?????????

I am in coal industry and we are maxed out on frieght. NO MORE room on the railroads. Now what?


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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Nickel » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:14:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', '3'). Sterilize everybody with an IQ below 100, and those who use the nickname "Cashmere" on Peak Oil internet forums.


Oh, please. The personality of any such miscreant would clearly make sterilization completely redundant. :lol:
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Nickel » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:24:21

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('mos6507', '[')img]http://stardate.org/images/gallery/sun5.jpg[/img]


You should really see about getting that lanced, Mos. :)
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Cashmere » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:36:36

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', 'W')hat would I do?

1. Cut 95% of military spending. . . .

8. Matt Damon.


Not a bad attempt at humor.

I mean, it wasn't funny, but it was a good attempt.

A star for you.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Cashmere » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:37:31

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Nickel', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', '3'). Sterilize everybody with an IQ below 100, and those who use the nickname "Cashmere" on Peak Oil internet forums.
Oh, please. The personality of any such miscreant would clearly make sterilization completely redundant.

And you should meet my children, they're worse!
Massive Human Dieoff <b>must</b> occur as a result of Peak Oil. Many more than half will die. It will occur everywhere, including where <b>you</b> live. If you fail to recognize this, then your odds of living move toward the "going to die" group.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby gregg1961 » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:45:19

My plan? Well, I think we have about 10 years, so here goes...

1. Bring the troops home. Keep a military for defense on our soil (and in case Canada needs a hand). When the troops are not actively defending our sovereignty or our borders they can help rebuild our country's infrastructure.

2. Transfer what was military spending to education. Increase PUBLIC school teacher salaries. Provide 4 years of college at PUBLIC universities to any student who can keep a 3.00 GPA or higher. We need to bring along a generation who can lead us out of this mess. Private schools are fine, if you can afford it and want to go there, go for it.

3. 100% Tariffs on imports of almost anything except food and oil.

4. Exports curtailed except for food. Manufacturing in US turns from making junk to what? Solar cells maybe? Remember the effort as the US entered WWII. We can do it again. As for food exports, how about we charge one bbl of oil for one bushel of wheat?

5. Eliminate pork barrel politics as much as possible. We need the money for real projects now. Use the savings to give any citizen who installs any form of individual alternative energy system a Federal tax credit for 75% of the system cost. States are encouraged to kick in the difference. Similar plan to Carter's plan that Reagan killed.

6. Make net-metering mandatory for all utilities.

7. The Federal Gasoline Tax goes to $7.50/gallon across the board. The money is used to repair and improve our infrastructure for future needs such as adding high-speed rail, more freight rail, faster communication modes, more natural gas pipelines, etc.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby starsky » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 14:52:20

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', 'W')hat would I do?
1. Cut 95% of military spending. . . .
8. Matt Damon.
Not a bad attempt at humor. I mean, it wasn't funny, but it was a good attempt. A star for you.

I guess not all of us can be born with a good sense of humor, but you shouldn't feel ashamed of it C, it's A-OK in my book.

Here's a special cookie for a special boy :) I hope you feel better. Ta ta dear!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'A')nd you should meet my children, they're worse!

Oh, he has children. Weren't you all about this sterilization? :cry:
I thought we were on the same page here ...
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Cashmere » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 17:07:33

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('starsky', 'W')hat would I do?
1. Cut 95% of military spending. . . .
8. Matt Damon.
Not a bad attempt at humor. I mean, it wasn't funny, but it was a good attempt. A star for you.

I guess not all of us can be born with a good sense of humor, but you shouldn't feel ashamed of it C, it's A-OK in my book.
Here's a special cookie for a special boy :) I hope you feel better. Ta ta dear!
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'A')nd you should meet my children, they're worse!
Oh, he has children. Weren't you all about this sterilization? I thought we were on the same page here ...

Voluntary sterilization. I had my kids long before I heard of PO.

I certainly would not have had any if I knew then . . . .
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Cashmere » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 17:09:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gregg1961', 'M')y plan? Well, I think we have about 10 years, so here goes...


Good thoughts.

I guess I'd have to question the public school teacher salary thing.

I think you could double salaries and the product coming out of the idiot factories wouldn't change much.

The problem is the parents, not the teachers.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Sys1 » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 08:22:15

That would be fun if I were in charge :
1) Media control, the first thing to do if in order to avoid riots, meaning trying to preserve civilization as we know it. Internet would disappeared as it's too dangerous in my opinion, only radio and television would stay "online".
2) Army and police fusion. Strong links between army and schools.
3) Forbid any personnal car.
4) food/water/energy use limits, preserving the grid would be a priority. A/C and electric heating forbidden.
5) birth control.
6) concentrations camps for people threatening the country, people who would critisize army, police, state or politics in charge would be considered as terrorists.
7) Slowly explain the awfull situation on medias, awfull meaning peak oil and not the first 6 points I presented here ;-p.
8) Huge and perpetual meeting with as many as possible countries on the planet to organize a new kind of economy, at least to avoid world war 3 which would lead us quickly to Olduvai.

I know my program looks frightening, but I definitally prefer 1984 than Mad Max. It's too late to expect capitalism or technology to create some starwars fantasy out of our situation.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Zero-point » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 14:03:37

It's very simple what to do.

1. Stop raping the world and the world's people of their natural resources and keeping them in slavery.

2. Cancel all debts issued by the IMF and World Bank.

3. Close all U.S. foreign bases saving 1 trillion dollars per year.

4. Invest in clean fusion energy. That will provide enough energy for the world for 10 billion years.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby vilemerchant » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 15:48:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '
')Stop pissing around with the likes of Venezuela, Russia, N Korea, Iran etc. SORT EM OUT. I don't mean Nuke em, MANY ways to skin a cat.
Gasmon


Glad you don't mean Nuke em, cos one of those countries will most certainly nuke anyone back in short order.

North Korea aren't a threat to anyone, Venezuela and Iran provide a huge amount of oil to the world markets, attacking them would only massively increase the cost of and disrupt the supply of oil, to no real benefit to anyone.

America can't even successfully defeat camel jockeys in Afghanistan in any reasonable time frame, so the concept of any occupation or real sorting out of any of those countries is just stupid. About all they could do is bomb buildings and shoot down a few planes, which would achieve what exactly?
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby JustaGirl » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 16:09:07

GASMON = Cheney? 8O
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Zero-point » Wed 10 Sep 2008, 16:54:18

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'G')ASMON = Cheney? 8O


LOL maybe he is. Some of the people that post on these forums are spouting the same messages of the psycho-elites like hoping or killing 4 billion people or letting them starve to death cause the think the world can't support 6 billion people and imposing world world dictatorship.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby joelcolorado » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 00:06:59

We will rise to the occasion. Man can do what he WILLS to do. You watch. Its only a matter of allocation.
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Re: You're In Charge. What's your plan?

Unread postby Zero-point » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 13:54:39

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('GASMON', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Zero-point', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'G')ASMON = Cheney? 8O
LOL maybe he is. Some of the people that post on these forums are spouting the same messages of the psycho-elites like hoping or killing 4 billion people or letting them starve to death cause the think the world can't support 6 billion people and imposing world world dictatorship.
Not Cheney, Just a Brit with a sense of history. No need, as I said for mass killings. BUT dont recede into your shell, like we Brits did. Like I said, SOMEONE has to be the biggest, strongest. Once it was us. Now its USA, in future China, Russia ??. Like it or lump it you guys need to stick at it. (With a little help from us, of course).
The cost wont be measured in dollars. It will be measured in freedom.

History doesn't happen it is planned. Your arguments lead to a fascist dictatorship where there is no freedom and 6 billion people dead by the strong ones as you call them the Anglo-American empire. Don't delude yourself with the bullshit of peak oil and global warming. It's all a ploy to centralize power into a global planning commission where people's lives are dictated and freedom is for the psycho-elite.
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