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Why the fascination with the end of the world

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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby Bas » Mon 08 Sep 2008, 17:49:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'T')his properly belongs in Out of This World, since the BBC article deals with metaphysical agencies for world-ending scenarios.

Is Peak Oil nothing more than a Cult? dealt more directly with the PO psyche.


I think this thread fits nicely in the psychology section, and with this kind of stuff (psychology, self reflection) I don't mind having more than one discussion for those who missed the "first" one. Thanks for the reference though, theDude.
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby Graeme » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 04:53:08

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ludi', 'N')ot to me. I don't see peak oil as the end of the world, not by a long shot.


On the other hand, war over resources would change this scenario completely. Although indirectly linked to peak oil, a war over a nuclear reactor in Iran would have devastating consequences, e.g. affecting oil supplies from the ME.

Gearing Up to Strike Iran

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to a recent article (in Hebrew) in the Israeli daily Maariv, Israel’s top political and security officials have taken a decision to attack Iran’s nuclear program if nothing else is done to halt it.

Senior journalist Ben Caspit writes that “the debate between those who think everything must be done, including a military operation, to stop Iran from obtaining a nuclear bomb and those who think one can live with it, has been decided. If the Iranian regime doesn’t fall during the coming year, if the Americans don’t deliver a military blow and if the sanctions don’t break the Iranian nuclear program, Israel will have to take action. In other words: the preparations for an Israeli military option…are already underway.”


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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby happychicken » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 06:40:53

There's a lot of talk today on the radio about the world ending tomorrow when the Large Hadron Collider at CERN is switched on. Actually, from what I've read it's going to take a few years probably before it'll come up with any answers and possible black holes that might swallow up the earth!

So, if it does take a few years, maybe it could coincide with 21st Dec 2012?

And of course we've got peak oil, runaway global warming, economic meltdown, collapse of society, global resource wars over oil, water and food, religious groups who believe in a second coming/religious apocalpyptic scenario all of which could coincide.

Basically there's a lot of scope for "end of the world" scenarios right now.

Now, what I wonder is, if everyone in the world believes it will end on the same date, will it happen? i.e. if everyone's reality disappears at the same time is that it? The world gone.

Is it the collective consciousness of the human beings on the planet that creates our reality?

Just a thought.

I suppose there might just be a few humans who don't have radios, newspapers and TVs who might save us all.
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby vision-master » Tue 09 Sep 2008, 09:21:23

Healing: An Alaskan Prophecy

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hat the Hopi [and the] Maori wanted us to know here in Alaska and all the villages, is that we are moving into the what they call the World of the 5th Hoop. The Navajo called it moving into the 5th World.

There are some predictions in the sacred stone tablets among the wisdom keepers about what is going to happen here in this World of the 5th Hoop. Not only are we going to have this healing but the Earth Mother is going to shake in a way that it has never shook before. It is going to move in a way it has never done before. There is going to be a lot of fear because of this, and the wisdom keepers want me to convey that, when this happens, we should not be afraid. Because, what is happening is that the Earth Mother is trying to help us remove the stuff that we have stuck in our bodies, inherited from the spiritual sickness of generations and generations out. And one of the ways that we do that is to scare the life out of us. This is why there is going to be time for healers.



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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Thu 11 Sep 2008, 10:32:20

It's been here all along. It's cultural!

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '"')It is a very ancient pattern in human thought. It is rooted in ancient, even pre-biblical Middle Eastern myths of ultimate chaos and ultimate struggle between the forces of order and chaos," says cultural historian Paul S Boyer, author of When Time Shall Be No More: Prophecy Belief in Modern American Culture.
"It is deeply appealing at a psychological level because the idea of meaninglessness is deeply threatening. Human societies have always tried to create some kind of framework of meaning to give history and our own personal lives some kind of significance."



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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby VMarcHart » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 17:11:57

End of the world talk is for lunatics, and those working on being the sole survivors of the species are reading too much science fiction.

Tough times are coming, many will not make through it, but end of the world?!?! Puh-leez!
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby killJOY » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 17:25:39

Idiotic talk about peak oil being related to "End of World." It's a way of diverting your attention from the EVIDENCE and drawing attention to the one making the argument (ad hominem).

1. The world isn't going to end. We should be so lucky as to have it end. No, we will be here and we will have to deal with the ensuing mess.

2. There is no "messiach." All "end of world" eschatologies involve a messiah. No messiah here. Not alternatives, not tar sands, not sun, not jesus.

3. Peak oil is based on secular science, not the bible.

GET OVER IT.
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby JustaGirl » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 20:55:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', 'E')nd of the world talk is for lunatics, and those working on being the sole survivors of the species are reading too much science fiction.


So are you doing any preps at all or just going with the flow?
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby VMarcHart » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:04:07

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'S')o are you doing any preps at all or just going with the flow?
I'm not preparing to survive doomsday, if that's what you're asking. I'm living today, thinking of tomorrow, but beyond that is for Rambo, not me.
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby JustaGirl » Wed 17 Sep 2008, 21:05:29

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('VMarcHart', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('JustaGirl', 'S')o are you doing any preps at all or just going with the flow?
I'm not preparing to survive doomsday, if that's what you're asking. I'm living today, thinking of tomorrow, but beyond that is for Rambo, not me.


That's what I'm doing as well. Not sure what else to do, to be honest. Oh well. :cry:
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Re: Why the fascination with the end of the world

Unread postby CarlosFerreira » Sun 21 Sep 2008, 07:52:06

The fact is it goes a bit like this (for me, at least)


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