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Report: world throws away 50% of all food

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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby mos6507 » Mon 25 Aug 2008, 15:31:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Heineken', 'N')ot wasting food will not solve the problem of undernourished and starving people. Instead, it will actually increase their numbers.

We know the drill. But it would be nice to get a better picture of when die off has to occur. If there is enough food waste, it gives us a little more buffer room if that waste can be put to good use.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby Ainan » Mon 25 Aug 2008, 18:05:24

I worked in a department store once. We threw a lot away, food products, such as biscuits and fancy chocolates just because they were past sell by date.(None i nicked, and yes nicked, its still their property after they have thrown it out apprently, had gone bad) It's not just food, 1000s of candles, cookware, cusions, decorations and clothes of all sorts are just thrown out because they have not sold in the the last 9 season rotation period.

As if that was not enough, we had a number of 'tramps'(who living in the UK would have council houses) raiding our skip for all these goods so standard policy was changed to pour bleach over everything.

THEY ACTUALLY WENT OUT OF THEIR WAY TO BUY BLEACH TO RUIN ALL THIS 'RUBBISH'.

We are doomed people.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby lorenzo » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 00:46:24

101 in global sustainability. For Heineken.

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More food = fewer people = less stress on the environment.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby Golgo13 » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 09:35:47

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '1')01 in global sustainability. For Heineken. See chart Lorenzo's post More food = fewer people = less stress on the environment.

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', '.')..reduced disease vulnerability and lower child mortality

That just makes the population problem worse.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby lorenzo » Tue 26 Aug 2008, 10:41:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Golgo13', 'T')hat just makes the population problem worse.

No it does not. Lower child mortality rates lead to lower fertility rates.

Common people, these are real basics you find in any undergrad course on development or demography.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby timmac » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 16:45:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lorenzo', 'R')emember: more food = less people. A basic rule in the history of demography and economics:
The societies who have made the transition to low fertility rates now have enough wealth to become more rational, post-capitalist, efficient consumers. Japan and Europe are there.
The middle economies are the most dangerous, because they still have relatively high fertility rates, and very primitive capitalist consumer cultures, which wreck the planet. This is the U.S.
The low income economies, with their high fertility rates, need more food to lower their fertility rates. That's the first step.

The above statment makes no sense to me at all,, so all those starving folks in Dafor our doing just fine after all ?????????.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby timmac » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 16:49:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Lorenzo', 'T')he middle economies are the most dangerous, because they still have relatively high fertility rates, and very primitive capitalist consumer cultures, which wreck the planet. This is the U.S.

We do not have high fertility rates in America,, avg american family has 2.2 childern, where is that high....
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby Quinny » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 16:58:17

Not necessarily
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Golgo13', 'T')hat just makes the population problem worse.
No it does not. Lower child mortality rates lead to lower fertility rates. Common people, these are real basics you find in any undergrad course on development or demography.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby lorenzo » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 18:29:02

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Quinny', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('lorenzo', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Golgo13', 'T')hat just makes the population problem worse.
No it does not. Lower child mortality rates lead to lower fertility rates. Common people, these are real basics you find in any undergrad course on development or demography.
Not necessarily

Perhaps not necessarily, but definitively routinely.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby Quinny » Fri 29 Aug 2008, 23:37:11

I think your equation should probably read: Less people = more food
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby Heineken » Sat 30 Aug 2008, 22:55:18

Maybe we can eat those little green squigglies in Lorenzo's avatar?

Then we can eat algae burgers as we tool around in our algae-powered cars.

What's the point of the argument, anyway? We're headed for a population of 9 billion---maybe 9 times what is "sustainable"---no matter what we do, short of nuclear self-annihilation.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby gampy » Mon 01 Sep 2008, 22:51:50

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ferretlover', '"')Report: world throws away 50% of all food:" I think we can take some small satifaction(?) that this situation will not last forever. In fact, probably for not much longer. Keep an eye out for people queing up by the dumpsters.


I see this quite a bit. Have seen a television documentary on a group of folks who get all of their food this way. They eat very, very well. And healthy.

In my starving artist phase, myself, and friends used to hang out back of pizza joints at closing time. Got lots of pizza for free.

Dumpster diving is nothing new, or strange really. What is strange is that it is becoming more frequent, and GASP! a little more socially acceptable. Recycling, and environmentalism, etc.

The West (G-8, etc.) is wasteful with all aspects of what it consumes. Gas, food, lumber, automobiles, electronic appliances, etc.

Our economy could not withstand REAL recycling, or conservation.
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby MrBean » Tue 02 Sep 2008, 11:29:35

Economics 101 of trash economy: as sure sigh of economic slowdown and demand destruction in the consumerist society the tonnage of trash is getting smaller by huge factor (a guy in the trash industry mentioned IIRC percentage of 5 to 7 on year to year basis).
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Re: Report: world throws away 50% of all food

Postby 3aidlillahi » Tue 02 Sep 2008, 11:55:00

From the article:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')ccording to Saving Water: From Field to Fork - Curbing Losses and Wastage in the Food Chain [*.pdf], tremendous amounts of food, and thus water, are discarded in the fields, during processing, in transport, in supermarkets, restaurants and in people's kitchens. Jan Lundqvist, who heads the scientific programme at SIWI, says the losses of all the food that farmers grow is an incredible 50 percent on a global scale.


Wow! 50% of all food is wasted and they aren't even including biofuels in their numbers. I wonder what the real waste numbers are?!

It's funny that the person calling for turning our food into fuel is also saying that more food = less people. Sure, quit burning our food, then we'll have less people. :)
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