Not sure about the whole Metodude thing, so I can't address that, or how it makes me a "jarhead" who uses "force". If you want to cite to the thread about "intimidating" a metrodude in a bar, I'll defend whatever words I wrote. Until then, I have no idea why wanting to bring U.S. troops home makes me a loser jar head.
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'A')nd even if you CAN put a finger on blaming a particular group, is that productive toward resolving the problems?
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Re: Remember the fallen
by Cashmere » Sun 24 Aug 2008, 06:42:49
That's not material to my point.
My point is only this . . .
Don't take advice on Realtors concerning whether now is a good time to buy a home.
Don't take advice from Zionists as to whether the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan are justifiable.
Why? Because both have a very substantial interest in the outcome, and both will lie through their teeth to get what they want.
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')You wanna pull out of Iraq, I think to "consolidate" the problem here within the US, resolve that one.
I don't understand the sentence. I want to pull out of Iraq and Afgahn because believe they are immoral resource grabs.
The problems at home are not resolvable under the current system (and not material to the discussion of foreign wars).
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'B')ut how then do you resolve the inequity WITHIN our own society? Who do you "Blame" in this one? Ilegal Aliens? Blacks? Jews?
Don't confuse Jews with Zionists.
Noahm Chompsky is a great man, a great intellectual, and a Jew, but he is not a Zionist.
Inequity within our society?
The U.S. over the last 100 years has provided the greatest opportunity in the history of the planet for an individual to be successful notwithstanding his or her race/religion/creed.
Obama is living proof of that.
The inequity in our society is about as low as inequity is going to get, given the constraints of our biological impulses to hate everything different than ourselves.
As for Christians, what do you want me to say?
Christians are a very loose knit bunch. Not like Muslims or Jews.
They don't act in concert, for the most part, and they don't view themselves, typically, as first Christian and then something else.
Most Jews see themselves first as Jews and 2nd as Americans.
I happen to think that makes a lot of sense - countries are transitory - genetics is permanent.
Most Christians see themselves as Americans first and Christians somewhere down the list.
In my view, most Christians are just fakers who don't give jack sh-t about living like Christ.
For example, I find it a complete contradiction to claim that you are a follower of Jesus and also . . .
Proabortion
Pro death penalty
Pro war in any form, with the possible exception of war in direct defense of self, but I think Jesus would have probably been opposed to that as well, like Gandhi.
I've met many very caring and considerate "Christians."
I've met many petty and nasty "Christians."
In my opinion, most Christians sully the name of Jesus by claiming to be adherents to his words.
But to answer your question directly, my opinion of "Christians" is that they aren't coherent enough as a group to act in a group-like manner to affect outcomes.
That said, have no doubt that much of the evil that has been perpetrated in the world, and most of the evil that has been perpetrated in the Western World, has been perpetrated by "Christians."
Were not the people who slaughtered and raped the native Americans bible-carrying Christians?
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Re: Remember the fallen
by Nickel » Sun 24 Aug 2008, 06:46:39
$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')hat did they sacrifice their lives for, exactly?
Can you help me with that VG?
I'd say they tragically were killed, but I'd hardly call it a sacrifice, unless it was a sacrifice so that fat Canadians could continue to drive SUVs. But that's not much of a sacrifice, is it?
So, from my perspective, they lost their lives for NOTHING.
And that is what we should remember, so that we can stop it from happening to more children.
Can you help me with that VG?
I'd say they tragically were killed, but I'd hardly call it a sacrifice, unless it was a sacrifice so that fat Canadians could continue to drive SUVs. But that's not much of a sacrifice, is it?
So, from my perspective, they lost their lives for NOTHING.
And that is what we should remember, so that we can stop it from happening to more children.
Thank you. I didn't want to be the first to say it. As far as I'm concerned, supporting one's troops means keeping them at home, in defence of their own country, not sending them off in voluntary wars to ruin, "liberate", or otherwise remake someone else's in our own image (regardless of what they might want). Our soldiers are being killed by people who don't want them there and won't thank us when we finally swallow our pride and bring them home. You can be the hero if you help liberate someone from some other foreign enemy, but you can never be the hero if you take sides in, or worse, instigate, a civil war -- which the West has done in Afghanistan and Iraq. At best, you'll be hated by a large minority; at worst, remembered badly by a whole nation.
Our troops belong in our country, where they are safe, and where they keep us safe. No one who advocates sending them abroad is "supporting" them. He or she is supporting his or her own lifestyle, paying for oil with soldier's blood. All those "Support Our Troops" ribbons on gas-guzzling SUVs are the grossest hypocrisy.
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I can see it now, "Yo, check out dis dude niggas, he gots a Bow!" I'm sure that'll keep the zombies away.
