[vampyregirl]

Three more Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan Wednesday, killed by a roadside bomb in Khandahar. Per capita we have lost at least as many troops over there as the Americans have. Let us not forget their sacrifices.

[Plantagenet]

God bless the brave soldiers of Canada.

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“We have become too civilized to grasp the obvious. For the truth is very simple. To survive you often have to fight, and to fight you have to dirty yourself. War is evil, and it is often the lesser evil. Those who take the sword perish by the sword...”

--George Orwell

[Cashmere]

What did they sacrifice their lives for, exactly?

Can you help me with that VG?

I'd say they tragically were killed, but I'd hardly call it a sacrifice, unless it was a sacrifice so that fat Canadians could continue to drive SUVs. But that's not much of a sacrifice, is it?

So, from my perspective, they lost their lives for NOTHING.

And that is what we should remember, so that we can stop it from happening to more children.

[alokin]

You remember the Mondays demonstration in the ex-DDR?
They only stood there with candles.
Something similar might be appropriate to show that the Canadians don't wish their boys to be killed in a useless war .

[vampyregirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')hat did they sacrifice their lives for, exactly?

Can you help me with that VG?

I'd say they tragically were killed, but I'd hardly call it a sacrifice, unless it was a sacrifice so that fat Canadians could continue to drive SUVs. But that's not much of a sacrifice, is it?

So, from my perspective, they lost their lives for NOTHING.

And that is what we should remember, so that we can stop it from happening to more children.

[cynthia]

Dear Gawd, Vampyregirl, You seem smart but not so much with your position about who is doing what to whom. Cashmere is harsh and looks horrible in pink but still he makes me think. Jumping to the assumption he is a supporter of the propaganda enemies is folly.

It didn't take long to figure out the number of soldiers killed in the so-called "war on terror" were from rural communities, say, like in my lovely state of Oregon. Why? Because fish and timber are not a viable source of income so our rural kids who came from that struggling family income source signed up for a college EDUCATION -thanks to Uncle Sam, and were sent to WAR.
And the Canadian soldiers? What are their stories?
And yes, Oregonians are driving lots of gas hogging vehicles but they are now trying to get rid of them.
Our present government capitulated on their position about proof of "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq. Afghanistan was in the geographical way. And I suspect poppies grow well there and that is another part of the scheme.
This War and the coming ones will always inflame, maim and upset all involved. War must be stopped.
Do you know how? I wish I did.
cynthia

[Plantagenet]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynthia', ' ')Afghanistan was in the geographical way. And I suspect poppies grow well there and that is another part of the scheme.

[mos6507]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('cynthia', '
')our rural kids who came from that struggling family income source signed up for a college EDUCATION -thanks to Uncle Sam, and were sent to WAR.

[cynthia]

I mentioned Afghanistan because VPYGRL mentioned it in her retort to Cashmere. I know solid links are the best support of statements.
Still, I rely on my memory. When we first arrived in Afghanistan there were reports that the farmers hoped the US would supply them with good poppy seeds like before. Here's a link I'm not familiar but looks good enough to throw in now: http://www.oilempire.us/afghanistan.html
I am fortunate to have and I generously support a local independent radio station http://kboo.fm/index.php
Some of the best news comes from the station's volunteers who provide information that we are not supposed to know.
So no, I am not making it up as I go along mos6507 and I thank you for challenging me back up my theories.
cynthia

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'T')hree more Canadian soldiers died in Afghanistan Wednesday, killed by a roadside bomb in Khandahar. Per capita we have lost at least as many troops over there as the Americans have. Let us not forget their sacrifices.

[MadScientist]

They were defending freedom from terrorists. pffft what more could any patriot ask for????????????????????????????????????

we all know sanity is out of the question...

[mattduke]

Any politicians (excluding Saddam) lost their lives?

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'W')hat did they sacrifice their lives for, exactly?

Can you help me with that VG?

I'd say they tragically were killed, but I'd hardly call it a sacrifice, unless it was a sacrifice so that fat Canadians could continue to drive SUVs. But that's not much of a sacrifice, is it?

So, from my perspective, they lost their lives for NOTHING.

And that is what we should remember, so that we can stop it from happening to more children.

[vampyregirl]

My ex boyfriend, My son's father, we are not together anymore but anyway he served with an infantry regiment out of Ottawa. He was involved in a major firefight almost as soon as he arrived in Afghanistan, with armed militants crossing from Pakistan. His unit got more than 80 kills that day.
SO I do have personal knowledge of the mindset of our soldiers. They are fighting for Canada, for the western world and what we believe in. Terrorism, Al Queda, Taliban, radical Islam in general is a great evil that cannot be appeased, it must be fought. Just as Nazi Germany could not be appeased and had to be fought.
Notice I said radical Islam, not Islamics in general. I have Muslim friends and most Muslims do not support the terrorists.
We have stayed out of Iraq and angered the Bush administration in the process. Well fuck them, Canada is not obligated to do the bidding of the American president.
Is Iraq a war for oil? Well Exxon has certainly benefited from it.

Anyway you should honor and respect your servicemen and women even if you disagree with the administration that sent them to war.

[Micki]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'M')y ex boyfriend, My son's father, we are not together anymore but anyway he served with an infantry regiment out of Ottawa. He was involved in a major firefight almost as soon as he arrived in Afghanistan, with armed militants crossing from Pakistan. His unit got more than 80 kills that day.
SO I do have personal knowledge of the mindset of our soldiers. They are fighting for Canada, for the western world and what we believe in. Terrorism, Al Queda, Taliban, radical Islam in general is a great evil that cannot be appeased, it must be fought. Just as Nazi Germany could not be appeased and had to be fought.
Notice I said radical Islam, not Islamics in general. I have Muslim friends and most Muslims do not support the terrorists.
We have stayed out of Iraq and angered the Bush administration in the process. Well Fark them, Canada is not obligated to do the bidding of the American president.
Is Iraq a war for oil? Well Exxon has certainly benefited from it.

Anyway you should honor and respect your servicemen and women even if you disagree with the administration that sent them to war.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'Z')ionists absolutely want the U.S. at war in the Middle East. What better protection for the motherland than the 800 pound gorilla firmly embedded right next door?

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('ReverseEngineer', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'Z')ionists absolutely want the U.S. at war in the Middle East. What better protection for the motherland than the 800 pound gorilla firmly embedded right next door?

[Cashmere]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'M')y ex boyfriend, My son's father, we are not together anymore but

anyway he served with an infantry regiment out of Ottawa. He was involved in a major

firefight almost as soon as he arrived in Afghanistan, with armed militants crossing from

Pakistan. His unit got more than 80 kills that day.
SO I do have personal knowledge of the mindset of our soldiers. They are fighting for

Canada, for the western world and what we believe in.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '
')Care to elucidate? (use as many insults as you deem necessary to make your point, I won't be insulted, and I request that the Mods allow the insults directed at me).

[vampyregirl]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Micki', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vampyregirl', 'M')y ex boyfriend, My son's father, we are not together anymore but anyway he served with an infantry regiment out of Ottawa. He was involved in a major firefight almost as soon as he arrived in Afghanistan, with armed militants crossing from Pakistan. His unit got more than 80 kills that day.
SO I do have personal knowledge of the mindset of our soldiers. They are fighting for Canada, for the western world and what we believe in. Terrorism, Al Queda, Taliban, radical Islam in general is a great evil that cannot be appeased, it must be fought. Just as Nazi Germany could not be appeased and had to be fought.
Notice I said radical Islam, not Islamics in general. I have Muslim friends and most Muslims do not support the terrorists.
We have stayed out of Iraq and angered the Bush administration in the process. Well Fark them, Canada is not obligated to do the bidding of the American president.
Is Iraq a war for oil? Well Exxon has certainly benefited from it.

Anyway you should honor and respect your servicemen and women even if you disagree with the administration that sent them to war.