[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ur ways are different. We are not a scriptual type of people. We are not known to be writers, we are known to be symbolizers. We may use a symbol or a color to represent a concept. When we teach something or we are shown something, you will only hear it once - you will not hear it again. If you hear it the second time it will not be the same as you heard it the first time and it will not be as strong a message. That is why we use symbols to represent the meaning of important teachings.

If you travel around some of the pueblos and the ruins you may hear the conversations of the people who have passed on - you can hear their planning and their laughter, their preparation of food and chatting of the woman folks, old people and the fires. If you close your eyes you can hear the children playing. You can really hear them. These are some of the talk that is left behind within the wind. The winds are the only messengers that we have. As we grew up, that is what our grandparents used to tell us. The only thing that you can have a conversation with is with the wind. There is a certain way that you face yourself and then you can hear them.

The way we were taught was to go out at the dawn - that is the time that you can speak to the old ones. You go out at dawn and make an offering and talk to them. They are the living gods - they are gone to the other side. The only time that you are going to hear them talking back is when there is a thunder or a new plant or a quick glance during which time you can see them. They only come at a certain time but they are around you, they are with you. But they are real and they are your guides. You speak to them in the morning - that is the time to talk to the old ones.

[PenultimateManStanding]

Anastazi Journey A beautiful part of the world. Ancient wind and sand carved cliffs and buttes. If you can, get Carlos Nakai and Paul Horn's haunting musical tribute to the Four Corners region and it's past and present inhabitants. Have you ever been down there, vm? Chaco Canyon is a place to see.

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('PenultimateManStanding', '[')url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k4_KaXyVQcc]Anastazi Journey[/url] A beautiful part of the world. Ancient wind and sand carved cliffs and buttes. If you can, get Carlos Nakai and Paul Horn's haunting musical tribute to the Four Corners region and it's past and present inhabitants. Have you ever been down there, vm? Chaco Canyon is a place to see. See photo above

[blukatzen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('vision-master', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'O')ur ways are different. We are not a scriptual type of people. We are not known to be writers, we are known to be symbolizers. We may use a symbol or a color to represent a concept. When we teach something or we are shown something, you will only hear it once - you will not hear it again. If you hear it the second time it will not be the same as you heard it the first time and it will not be as strong a message. That is why we use symbols to represent the meaning of important teachings.

If you travel around some of the pueblos and the ruins you may hear the conversations of the people who have passed on - you can hear their planning and their laughter, their preparation of food and chatting of the woman folks, old people and the fires. If you close your eyes you can hear the children playing. You can really hear them. These are some of the talk that is left behind within the wind. The winds are the only messengers that we have. As we grew up, that is what our grandparents used to tell us. The only thing that you can have a conversation with is with the wind. There is a certain way that you face yourself and then you can hear them.

The way we were taught was to go out at the dawn - that is the time that you can speak to the old ones. You go out at dawn and make an offering and talk to them. They are the living gods - they are gone to the other side. The only time that you are going to hear them talking back is when there is a thunder or a new plant or a quick glance during which time you can see them. They only come at a certain time but they are around you, they are with you. But they are real and they are your guides. You speak to them in the morning - that is the time to talk to the old ones.

[holmes]

Chaco Canyon was so much fun. Camped there in 2000 in November. The nights were freezing and clear. The days sunny and hot. Spent 3 days in Chaco. Went into the areas where all the bodies and treasure are and that are closed off to the public. No one was there in November. Crazy stuff went down in that canyon like Cannibalism. Overpopulation. It was a forest at one time. Thats where they got the timbers for their structures. Forest and water turned to desert. Amazing petroglyphs and pictographs. Areas where the equinox shines through the canyon walls. They found cannibalized bodies in some of the Kivas. You can just taste the initial civility and prosperity that eventually turned to chaos and carnage that went down in that valley. There is a definate energy there.

[vision-master]

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