[benzoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'I') wonder if the Swedes know that the Blonde Swedish Female is the preferred reference among American males when talking about the perfect boner-producing specimen? If they do know, how do they feel about that?

[JJ]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('heineken', 'A') few years back there was some sort of criminal who escaped into the woods of western North Carolina (I think it was) and managed to hide out there for several years, living like a mountain man of old. Not sure what happened to him . . . maybe he was finally captured.

[VMarcHart]

PeakOilers, what a disappointment! This thread has been active for over 2 hours and nobody has mentioned the Z-word yet.

Don't make me say it!

[killJOY]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'P')eakOilers, what a disappointment! This thread has been active for over 2 hours and nobody has mentioned the Z-word yet.

[dunewalker]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'I') was just on another forum where the question was posed re: what you would take if you were bugging out 'into the unknown'. Why do people insist on this fantasy?
Is this just a case of "trusting" that "something" will turn up? Some macho "live off the land" wish-fulfillment? Or what? I'm baffled.

[Daniel_Plainview]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'W')ith a year's worth of Mountain House #10 cans of food and a couple of Swedish stewardesses, too?

[RedStateGreen]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'i')f your choice is stay put and die in a nuclear blast, then flight is probably a better option!

[pedalling_faster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', 'I') was just on another forum where the question was posed re: what you would take if you were bugging out 'into the unknown'. Why do people insist on this fantasy? ...
I've had to evacuate before (wildfires) and it really makes it much easier if you have a place to go already. We packed important documents, a few changes of clothes, and the kids' toys and went to grandma's.

[criticalmass]

So what do you take... if you do it?

I think it's noble to retreat to the mountains and invite certain death as a choice above freedom.
I also think it's an interesting idea to lay low in a predetermined area to get away from the disaster- but realistically how long would you have to be there? 6 months, a year? Most likely.
The first winter? Harsh, and not likely survived.

My escape sack: Bagged and labeled seeds, a sleeping bag, full tang knife, fishing line and hooks, lighter(s), a heavy jacket, flour, notebook and pencil, mess kit for two, and rope- 100'. The 357 and plenty of rounds would logically already be on my person.

I've no fantasies about being the only person in a lesser known location. Negotiating skills and proof that I can pull my own weight would certainly be my best assets.

[frankthetank]

I've already got a Carnival Cruise ship lined up for all of us. They told me that when the $hit goes down, just give them a ring and they'll have a fully prepped/stocked ship ready for us. I'm hoping to charter planes to come and pick everyone up. Bring swimming trunks and lubricants.

[CrudeAwakening]

Anyone seen/read "Into the Wild"? The young protagonist was remarkably resourceful as a modern day hunter-gatherer, surviving as a serial "bug-outer" for (from memory) about one year.

Until he ate the wrong berries in Alaska and died alone in an abandoned bus.

[benzoil]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('benzoil', 'i')f your choice is stay put and die in a nuclear blast, then flight is probably a better option!

[frankthetank]

Just read or watch some Dick Proenneke... The guy did it all. He did have supplies flown in, but they were just staples. Plus he hardly ate any of the local wildlife, just what he found dead and some fish.

[Roy]

[joeltrout]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Fiddlerdave', 'S')mall and large game was rampant, seafood in the the many coastal sloughs and ebaches was rich, and seasonl events like salmon runs made getting an enormous supply of meat to dry and store was fast (although the preparation took some work). Various edible fruits, nuts and vegetables grow year round, and edible mushrooms are everywhere. Sardines took little work to catch in large numbers. A rain-tight shelter made of the ever-present tulle reed with a few other bodies to keep it warm was the basic technological need.

[americandream]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Cashmere', 'I') don't think it's a myth. I think it's very doable. Think about it. Thousands of men did it when the country was being colonized (invaded).
There are plenty of fairly vast, forested areas where you can disappear into the forest. Life would be difficult. And simple. Very simple.
I guess my perspective is this: I don't love my own life enough to want to protect it by living in the woods by myself for the next X number of years. Simple as that for me.
I've never got that about people. I met some 70 year old guy who was desperate to live. I'm thinking, "why?" What the hell is it about being on this parasite infested sh1t-hole of a planet that you find so endearing? 70 years isn't enough?

[katnipkid]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('DoomWarrior', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('RedStateGreen', ' ')It seems as though people just think there will be some idyllic mountain area (that no one ELSE knows about) that they can just somehow find (because we're "bugging out into the UNKNOWN"), without being arrested for trespassing, coming across thugs/druggies who have staked out the area already, or falling prey to the elements.

[vision-master]

The story of Dick Proenneke

Alone in the Wilderness

[Ludi]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('katnipkid', ' ')I would rather trust my fate to that cabin in the woods than expect the gubermint to save us.

[mgibbons19]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('aflurry', 'F')antasy wish-fulfillment. The religious apocalypse ushers in the the union of the self with God in the Rapture, where the self is remade and its divinity revealed. Secular apocapypsies imagine a similar reformation of the self through a union with the unknown, the wilderness, whatever chaotic rupture.