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Movie: "The Dark Knight"

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Movie: "The Dark Knight"

Unread postby Benzin » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 12:55:41

Anyone else seen this movie yet? I just saw it yesterday (I tried to wait as long as possible for the hype to wear off) and I have to say it is one of the best movies I have seen in a long time. Sometimes Hollywood does squeeze out a good nugget of a film once in awhile.

I plan to see it again so I can get a better grasp of some things I missed. All I can say is the Joker is the real deal. He is 100% total bat-shite crazy and badass at the same time. I've always been a sucker for Batman movies, but this is the best I have ever seen.

It's nice to escape modern society's impending doom for a few hours. :razz:
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby berechia » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 15:13:48

You could just read about it and pick up the details you don't understand on
http://www.themoviespoiler.com/Spoilers/darkknight.html

save ten bucks and you don't have to burn any gas.

Sounds like the Joker is kind of crazy, killing people and all that.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Bas » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 16:08:31

I saw it last week, don't normally go to these kind of movies or not many movies at all as a matter of fact but I was convinced by some friends and the good critiques it got. It did not disappoint me but I did find it a boring movie. Might be a good movie for it's genre but I guess I just don't like these kinds of movies.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Narz » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 17:18:43

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'S')tarted "V for Vendetta" last night, and it kind of felt like a superhero movie. I stopped after 10 minutes.

V for Vendetta bored the schnit out of me. Self-important, physics defying, perfect heroes are the least interesting.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Bas » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 17:23:28

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', 'I') don't much care for them either. Started "V for Vendetta" last night, and it kind of felt like a superhero movie. I stopped after 10 minutes.


Well, that makes me think, I am in the mood for these kind of movies on rare occasions, and it was one of these rare occasions that I watched "V for Vendetta" (which I had laying around for months) and actually enjoyed it. It was just before the fifth of november too. Either way, I think V has a little less fantasy and little more "doomerish s-f" to it than than Dark Knight so that may have contributed a little to my viewing pleasure, but yeah, overall it would be the same category.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby blukatzen » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 23:32:14

Good movie? It was a MAJOR PIECE OF CRAP!

DH kept telling me the folks in all his fellow cubicle-mates at his engineering firm L-O-V-E-D it. What a major waste of time. Now I know how Hollyweird has ramped up it's propaganda techniques for imbedding messages into the mindless hordes that see trash like this, Ironman, and Indiana Jones (we saw those 2 last weekend.) At least those 2 films had somewhat of a plotline.

The techniques used during the film have a quick pan-shot technique that use a "Pop-pop-pop" imaging that keep you on edge...and that is supposed to sell you on the "keep being afraid..the terrorists will get you". The Joker of course, is the crazy terrorist that even the mob doesn't like.
(and even that had a weird unexplained, hard-to-follow storyline.)

This was was just a bad attempt at a black "film noir" using a comic book character from our youth and programming that was so obvious a monkey could pick it out. HORRIBLE story line, HORRIBLE acting, mediocre pyrotechnics, just plain mediocre.

I am saddened that it was filmed in my city, Chicago, which had to endure that movie disrupting our life. What a waste of time and money. The *programming* coming out of Hollyweird is admittingly getting WAY more obvious.

I told my husband if he wants to waste his time on this shit, be my guest, but don't waste my time or giving MY MONEY to those pricks in Hollyweird.

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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby blukatzen » Sun 03 Aug 2008, 23:41:56

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('pstarr', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Narz', 'S')elf-important, physics defying, perfect heroes are the least interesting.
I like my heros with warts. Like Clint Eastwood in "The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly" Or Hannibal Lecter :)


Well, I've been wanting to see "Mongol" which was filmed in Central Asia/Khazakistan by the Russian Sergei Bodrov. (I am a fan of Tuvan Throat singing.)

Heck, any movie about Genghiz Khan would have been preferable to anything as bad as the movie I just witnessed. He actually did achieve greatness, unlike the make-believe "Heroes" that are processed out of comic books, fed to us endlessly, do you realize how many comic-book movie characters are out there in movie form right now?
Who needs all that ......"saving"?

www.mongolmovie.com

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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Prince » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 10:23:59

I saw it. It was just okay for me. It started out really well, but the ending left me scratching my head. Maybe I was just too bored after 2.5 hours to really understand the ending. I also thought that they could have slimmed it down by 45 minutes without losing much of the storyline. I liked the art and special effects, but I certainly wouldn't rate this up there with some of my other favorites.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby midnight-gamer » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 11:42:12

blukatzen, Batman is making quite a lot of money, which means people like it. Maybe it just was not to your taste?
I give the Mongol movie a shot, That looks like a cool premise. I'll agree that there is a lot of untapped potential for historical movies. Not stuff that is remade to be comic book based either. Example, "300" I liked the movie, but I would prefer a realistic portrayal, as realism would have been plenty exciting without the exaggeration .
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby blukatzen » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 12:34:42

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'b')lukatzen, Batman is making quite a lot of money, which means people like it. Maybe it just was not to your taste?


Yes, Hubby and I looked at that when we got home, and there is just marketing hype. He looked at personal reviews like mine, and he saw a LOT of them..they were just as vehement in their dislike as mine.

I remember one of the first "Batman" movies with Michael Keaton as the "Dark Knight" role and Jack Nicholson as the Joker; ENTIRELY different. If you remember, Tim Burton was the director of that film, there was plenty of "dark" there.
There was character development in place of a fleeting storyline you have to piece together to try to assemble a feeling for what the movie was "about" or "for".
There was an over-reliance on special affects without the reason *WHY* the character of the Joker wanted to, or needed to use them.

A main character, central to Bruce Wayne's character, gets killed and you are left wondering why, it was glossed over too much. There was such quick movement in the fleeting plot, the actions never got to sink in to let the audience feel along with the story/plot line.
In today's movie, you get to see lots of action, but no storyline, one is left with the feeling over and over..."now why is this happening?"..."what's up with this, now"....and it was just too confusing to have to piece this together.

I have "PeakOil movie goggles" and I was looking at the movie with those on. I was looking for the REASON Hollyweird wanted to give me that kind of message..don't "think"..just "feel"..just "react" to this terrorism on screen. Just remain scared little sheep.

Hubby is peakoil ready and we've prepared. I tell him about what I truly saw and he agreed with my analysis right away, and he was sorry he wanted to see that movie..you are in essence giving money to the machine that is wanting to propagandize you.

We are seeing a social experiment in the production of these type of film(s) nowadays. What does that say about our society if that is a high-grossing film?

We're in trouble if that is entertainment.


(quote)I give the Mongol movie a shot, That looks like a cool premise. I'll agree that there is a lot of untapped potential for historical movies. Not stuff that is remade to be comic book based either.(quote)

Comic book based things are supposed to be reminiscent of our childhood days. They've taken them and messed with them and thrown in weird premises. They are no longer "Heroes" or "ideals" to look up to, when you were a kid. If the idea is to slash all the premises of an ideal hero, like Indiana Jones, or Iron Man, they worked, but Batman is so confused the idea was to save yourself.
(which is always the idea.)

[/quote]Example, "300" I liked the movie, but I would prefer a realistic portrayal, as realism would have been plenty exciting without the exaggeration .[/quote]

I agree, but it was nice to at least have something setting ideals that it was worth protecting your homeland, and possibly dying for the effort.
Sorry it was used to (possibly) incite young folks with ideals in their head to go fight for (this) war, neither noble nor courageous.

Even the good films have propaganda messages in them. If you thought they were just happening in WWII-era, forget it, they're pumping them out by the dozens in Hollyweird right now.

Mongol may have at it's underlying premise "fear your Asian overlord".....I dunno.

I was looking at a film I never saw when it came out, Apocalypto, yesterday on Youtube. (actually tidbits of the film.) I saw one where the high priest is talking to the crowd and putting on a grand show for them.
Here is the video clip.
If you watch that, look at the crowd, and how it is manipulated.

It is not unlike modern society and the movie house, nowadays.

Gotta watch that show!

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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Waterthrush » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 14:36:19

Just for a change, I'd like a merry and high-spirited hero. I'm really sick of these "dark side" characters. They are not the exception any more, but rather the norm.

Anybody want to cut a different and innovative path for a hero movie? Try a hero who laughs a lot and who is "kind and gentle, not brutal" in the perceptive words of Maid Marion, speaking of Errol Flynn as the classic Robin Hood. Yeah, it's been about 70 years since then. Dark knights the norm, white knights in all too short a supply!
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby JJ » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 17:41:00

this was this weeks topic for Kunstler.

http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/ ... l#comments
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby dovey » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 17:42:33

i thought the movie was Jungian in nature. we all have the dark/shadow side and need to embrace it.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby 3aidlillahi » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 19:05:23

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'W')hen the chips are down, civilized people, they'll eat each other


The Joker - "The Dark Knight"

Anybody else catch that halfway through during the interrogation? You may have fallen asleep at this point if you don't remember it.

Just showing that even our entertainment can lead to cannibalism talk.
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Re: The Dark Knight

Unread postby Ayoob » Mon 04 Aug 2008, 19:34:44

He hates America. I don't know how else to put it. He thinks our communities aren't worth living in, our people are deranged proto-Nazis, and we're all seconds away from bursting out into an animalistic rage and torturing the innocent at all times.

I used to kind of enjoy his stuff but not anymore. He's a weirdo.
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