[slesh]

Not that it should matter with peak oil here, but to understand, to truely understand here in america what we are up against, may I point all of your research skills to the "Income Tax" law.
I have NOT paid income tax since I have learned this.

YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PAY IT. AS A MATTER OF FACT, WHEN AN EMPLOYER REQUESTS YOU FILL OUT A W-4 FORM FOR INCOME TAX ITS ILLEGAL.
The amendment was NEVER RATIFIED into the constitution, which by law makes the Federal Reserve Illegal.
Look it up, Library of Congress.

Tell me what you find and post it.
By the way, that was 4 years ago for me. And I'm still a free man.

[slesh]

Sure, no problem
My name is Bert
My friends name is Ernie
We are a mixed couple, not married
Oh, sometimes we argue here and there on subjects such as: Who doesn't wear underwear tonight!
But otherwise than that we are good.
We both live at 2112 Seseme Street, NY, NY
I would give the zipcode, but only my friend the Count seems to know it........Oh, Oh, hold on, here it is, 1-2-3-4-5-6.
There you go.

[ivanillich]

I can't believe this nonsense is still being posted:

Quick google search debunks this:

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('', 'T')he 16th amendment was never properly ratified.

False. This claim is premised on the fact that there were minor differences in punctuation, spelling, and word use in each of the ratified versions of the amendment. The fact is that Secretary of State Knox took all this into account when determining if the amendment had passed, and decided the discrepancies were not material enough to deny ratification. More importantly, none of the amendments to the Constitution prior to the age of Xerox machines were passed with such word-for-word perfection. Does that mean the Bill of Rights isn't the law of the land? The 16th amendment was passed in 1913, well before the age of perfect digital transmissions and easy photocopying. As such, it's not surprising that there were minor discrepancies between the states.

Furthermore, the passage of the amendment was a matter of public record. If a state passed a materially different version of the amendment, why didn't it complain when the version it passed wasn't the version formally incorporated into the Constitution?

[slesh]

Correct. Very Correct. But, when you fight it and it goes infront of a circut judge, it passes the muster. Hence the liberal judges being exponged by the Bush admin. to hasten the war in Iraq for oil.
You were to quick on this one my friend, I thought I had people thinking. LOL, Its good to see someone is paying attention.

[slesh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPypDaXf ... re=related

Show me the law. There isn't one. Period, end of conversation.

[slesh]

OK, here we go

Name: Ty W. Guenot Sr.
SSN: 113-56-9680
DOB: November 10th, 1970

Go ahead, run the numbers,
I have a DD-214, hONORABLE DISCHARGE
I owe approx. 0.............thats right......0 to the federal gov.
If they have a bone to pick, bring it, otherwise they should just move along.

[slesh]

Oh, and MattS, we are talking of INCOME TAXES ON LABOR not on property, which, to my knowledge people are not property in the US in todays day and age. And if the fed tries that argument, I can alwas throw that out there can't I now.

[slesh]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aroN2uRb ... re=related

[gampy]

Good luck with that Slesh. Show them revenu'ers who's boss.

I seem to remember a caes of a man in the same position, but not sure how that ended up.

You have any anecdotes of people getting off scott-free, in regards to tax evasion?

[slesh]

Simply put, you cannot, in any form, call something evasion if a LAW does not exist to evade. Point blank.

[slesh]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'G')ood luck with that Slesh. Show them revenu'ers who's boss.

I seem to remember a caes of a man in the same position, but not sure how that ended up.

You have any anecdotes of people getting off scott-free, in regards to tax evasion?

[gampy]

Hi Slesh, any updates to Tom Cryer's story?
Did the Federal prosecution try to appeal the case? (I am Canadian, not sure if the State can appeal acquittals in the U.S. ...they can in Canada.)

Is he still free? Still not paying tax on labour?

I wonder how many cases are still out there?

[slesh]

Many, many more. Here's the deal, I have not paid federal income tax for 4 years, but, I will pay state tax, afterall, I do need roads to drive on and so on......but in so far as federal, NOPE, and they cannot touch me on my wages becuase they are labor, NOT, business.

[kpeavey]

I filed my taxes this year. After not filing since 1995, I got a visit from a nice man who informed me that the powers that be would be more than able to offer me free room and board, perhaps with a psycho child molester or mass murderer, unless I toe the line and hand them over a big sack of cash.

Currently I owe no federal income taxes.

It is good to not have the federal government breathing down my neck.

They can go fuck themselves.

[Micki]

Slesh, good for you and good luck. Hope many more will have civil courage to stand up for their rights.
If more people could fight for what is right and not accept the corrupt system in place now, USA could become a great country and a beacon of freedom again.

Coinsidentally I just a little while ago was reading this piece;

Media Blackout: 161 Federal Tax Charges, 0 Convictions
on the We The People foundations website.

[vision-master]

The IRS CAN garnish your Social Security Retirement benefit. They may garnishee 15% of your monthly benefit for taxes that are at least six months in arrears. Kiss your old age pension goodbye.

[Cloud9]

It matters little if the judge is conservative or liberal, your tax revolt case will be heard by a federal judge. His salary, his pension all depend on the outcome of your case. No judge in his right mind is going to hand down a ruling that will threaten his own livelihood and pension. Even if by some miracle you prevail in the trial court, the ruling will be overturned on appeal.

The only way you will win this thing is that if your income is so low the feds will at the end of the day owe you money. Threaten federal authority and you will lose.

Take it from a southerner, my grand parents revolted and we suffered one hundred years of poverty because of it.

[AlexdeLarge]

Let me give you some good advice.

“Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar’s"

I do not like taxes anymore than next man. ( With the exception of some Democrats! LOL) You will eventually get nailed and royally screwed.

Don't believe me? Ask this guy.

[slesh]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'H')i Slesh, any updates to Tom Cryer's story?
Did the Federal prosecution try to appeal the case? (I am Canadian, not sure if the State can appeal acquittals in the U.S. ...they can in Canada.)

Is he still free? Still not paying tax on labour?

I wonder how many cases are still out there?

[vision-master]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('slesh', '')$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('gampy', 'H')i Slesh, any updates to Tom Cryer's story?
Did the Federal prosecution try to appeal the case? (I am Canadian, not sure if the State can appeal acquittals in the U.S. ...they can in Canada.)

Is he still free? Still not paying tax on labour?

I wonder how many cases are still out there?