[Toploader]

I was deported on arrival to America the third time I went due to some problems with my work visa. At the time I was pissed, but as I was in Arizona I guess it was a lucky escape in hindsight. Seems being from a country that’s ‘shoulder to shoulder’ with the USA makes little difference. The FBI now has my finger prints, great!

It was kinda amusing, every immigration officer I had to deal with were of Mexican origin and spoke Spanish as their mother tongue. Of course these guys had every right to live and work in the states but it still amused me.

[smallpoxgirl]

Regardless on where you stand on the idea of stopping illegal immigration, these raids are a farce. They're going to spend $10,000 rounding up some dude from McDonald's and shipping him to Mexico. Next week he'll pay a mule $300 to smuggle him back in. The only people that are benefiting at all are the mules, and the companies selling Rambo gear to ICE.

[manu]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Blacksmith', 'W')hat can we do to stop americans coming into Canada. Prehaps an electic fense. One string. Works with cattle, should work.

[phaster]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Kingcoal', 'A')s long as the "illegals" don't file for government bennies or do anything illegal, they have a right to come here to live and work. God knows this country needs lots of workers to do the jobs which are beneath us Natural Born residents.

My ancestors had no Social Security numbers, no Medicare/Medicaid, no free lunch whatsoever. They were completely unknown to the Federal government. Contrary to popular belief (and this belief appears to be strong among some moderators on this board based on posts of mine which have been deleted), you do not need a license to work and live in this country.

On the other hand, if you want to come here and commit crimes and/or get free shit from the government without first going through the process of Naturalization, you deserve to be arrested and deported.

[bonner]

dude

i dont like illegals more than the next person. But in there defense


you guys bought them here. im cuban so i can comment anyway i like on this. cause i got racial immunity almost. What gets me is that you white guys bought them here. to build your stupid houses and work here. You attracted them with work. And never did anything to stop this in the 1980's not even a thing. You guys who critisize this so much didnt do one thing to stop it.?


so millions came in.


nt only did i find it incredible that you guys ( anglo americans ) didnt do anything about it. What i find amazing. Is that now that its to late Is when you guys want them out of here.


I mean im not going to give you any talking points cause we are familiar with all of them.


But holly crap.


it makes me

think you guys want them out of here. Not cause you give a shit about your country. but becuase all the houses have been built All the food has been eaten. All the grass has been cut. All the children have been nanied. All the products have been sold. etc,.

it makes me think Or if i didnt know better. You want them out of here. Cause the economy slowed down. Or the houses are built. It makes me think that if the economy heated up again.

theyd be the greatest thing since slice bread. I mean they ( illegals ) where the greatest thing since slice bread. when the boom was on. Now theyre public enemy number one.


So what is it. You guys want them out of here. Becuase these jobs go to americans. Or you want them out of here because theres nothing left for them to do.?

[bonner]

nothing left for them to do. Or cause these jobs go to americans. cause i want them out becuase these jobs are for americans.


And i think we should start paying them to stay. Giving them grants 10 k and up. To start a business in mexico. Loans of 5 k to pay rent in mexcio. In fact i say we subsidize There economy. Make them stay there. They open up a company.


the build xyz.

We Gurantee we buy it from them 25 percent. If they employ 500 of them. We gurantee we buy 50 percent. If they employ 2000 of them we buy 100 percent. Till they can stand on their own.


and they are independant. lets say 3 years. we need to get there economy going.

and create customers there. You know also in there defense they dont like living here.

if we made it possible for them to work in mexico. why not.?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('TheDude', 'W')hat's the EROEI on deporting illegals?

[Pretorian]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('smallpoxgirl', ' ') Next week he'll pay a mule $300 to smuggle him back in.

[contractor]

You are kidding right? Being a newbie to this site but a midwest contractor who will not hire the lil bastards I think deportation is the key. They are illegal, they don't belong here they ruined there country so I guess it's ok they ruin ours also??? please. I say they should get rid of the fricking water tanks located all over the border and replace them with packs of hungry pitbulls and rots. This place is going to hell in a hand basket because of the money hungry americans that want to save a buck so they can pay for there lexus.

[Ayoob]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('contractor', 'Y')ou are kidding right? Being a newbie to this site but a midwest contractor who will not hire the lil bastards I think deportation is the key. They are illegal, they don't belong here they ruined there country so I guess it's ok they ruin ours also??? please. I say they should get rid of the fricking water tanks located all over the border and replace them with packs of hungry pitbulls and rots. This place is going to hell in a hand basket because of the money hungry americans that want to save a buck so they can pay for there lexus.

[socrates1fan]

I've never had anything against immigrant.
However.
Illegal immigration is not the same thing.
Illegal immigrants are going to become more and more of a problem soon.
As people need jobs more, they will start wanting the jobs no one wanted before. Its best for the country to deport them and seal the border.
The United States can't cradle Mexico's baby.
Its causing problems. Crime rates climb(and I know I'm going to offend someone but when you have a large influx of lower class you get higher crime rates. Lower class people arent violent or unlawful because they are lower class, but you have more people who are desperate for money, food, etc.), gangs get going, cultures clash, economic issues, etc.
It isn't a very pretty picture.
My ancestors came in the 1700's from Germany and they did not have any formal records, however, they were recorded legally on a list.
The standards have rised, but the law remained the same.

[TreeFarmer]

We should have sealed the border 30 years ago. The day is coming when we will really regret not doing that.

TF

[GeneralGreen]

Their are allot of Mexicans in the USA..deporting 2,000-5,000 out of 30 million is peanuts.
Mexico is entering its Long Emergency as we speak and is going to deteriorate in full speed in the next 4 years.
I expect for every 1 Mexican they deport 100 to flood in.
I am seriously expecting around 20-30 million more Mexicans to make their way up north in the next 10 years "and the insolvent USA government will let them"
Think about it if your Mexican...
you likely have family in the states..your country is bankrupt , broke and with no future..your home, sanitation, diet is getting worse daily..So Jose comes and says for 300 dollars he can help you get to New Mexico..and their you can hook up with your nephew Enrique who has 3 kids all born in the USA and are national citizens...You and your spouse and children all load up on Jose transport and head North..
Times this by the 1,000s every day.
Also expect places like Panama, Guatemala etc to do the same...
Then add the other places..like Africa, Mid East, Asia to flood in if they can.
This Open borders policy is going to come back to bite every single America..

[socrates1fan]

Who knows?
I know tolerance amongst illegal aliens is fading fast.
I wouldn't be surprised if Americans take up physical violence against illegals.
Not because they are 'Mexican' but because its compitetion for work.
People might be able to settle in the border states but North of that I don't think so.

[medicvet]

The issue of illegal immigration is THE polarizing subject of our day. I can see under a severe depression, riots breaking out and stones thrown through shop windows, with notes wrapped around the bricks that are thrown.."wetbacks go home". When jobs because scarce, conditions at those jobs will be worse, and the lengths one will go to in competition for the ever decreasing jobs will split our society down the middle.

It does sadden me that neither of our two major political candidates for the presidency have the nerve or the guts to address the issue of illegal immigrants. That's because until the next terrorist attack takes place, Americans are only willing to give up so much of their freedom for their security, to paraphrase Franklin. But once there is another terrorist attack on US soil, whether or not it came from the border, it will be blamed for the attack, and you will see the border sealed tight..and us sealed tight in a police state inside it as well.

[Ibon]

3 generations of a service economy where 98% of the citizens don't know how to grow food, make stuff or fix things. We will be begging them to come back once our economy collapses because they do know how to rebuild alternators, grow and harvest your broccoli, fix an axle and build a cart. Not to mention they are collectively more fuel efficient than you are. 10 mexicans going to work in a Suburban or Escalade is more fuel efficient than 10 solo drivers in their 10 Prius cars. They are better socialized for a post peak oil world and will out perform all of us. Is that maybe why deep inside we want them to go away? Their skills will out compete 99% of you on this site once peak oil really sets in

[americandream]

40 to 50 years of American backed destabilisation of the non-white world is coming home to roost.

It's crazy that a racist society like America pauperised its coloured neighbours. Rather similar to the idiotic history of the apartheid regime in South Africa and look at where it landed them. Not only did they lose their racist ShangriLa, they now have the indignity of having to co-exist with majority black neighbours.

Welcome to your future America. There's nothing you can do to alter this dialectic. There's just too many of them and you haven't the bullets.

[ReverseEngineer]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', 'W')elcome to your future America. There's nothing you can do to alter this dialectic. There's just too many of them and you haven't the bullets.

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('Ibon', '3') generations of a service economy where 98% of the citizens don't know how to grow food, make stuff or fix things. We will be begging them to come back once our economy collapses because they do know how to rebuild alternators, grow and harvest your broccoli, fix an axle and build a cart. Not to mention they are collectively more fuel efficient than you are. 10 mexicans going to work in a Suburban or Escalade is more fuel efficient than 10 solo drivers in their 10 Prius cars. They are better socialized for a post peak oil world and will out perform all of us. Is that maybe why deep inside we want them to go away? Their skills will out compete 99% of you on this site once peak oil really sets in

[holmes]

$this->bbcode_second_pass_quote('americandream', '4')0 to 50 years of American backed destabilisation of the non-white world is coming home to roost.

It's crazy that a racist society like America pauperised its coloured neighbours. Rather similar to the idiotic history of the apartheid regime in South Africa and look at where it landed them. Not only did they lose their racist ShangriLa, they now have the indignity of having to co-exist with majority black neighbours.

Welcome to your future America. There's nothing you can do to alter this dialectic. There's just too many of them and you haven't the bullets.